If I want to refi a commercial property, plan to what cap rate?

If I want to refi a commercial property, plan to what cap rate?

Jehon BendokasPro Member
Investor · Gulf Breeze, FL · Member since 2018 · 32 posts · 19 votes

This is a serious look into my first commercial property.

I'm running numbers for a commercial medical space for sale at .144 cap rate due to a full service lease being renewed annually. NOI is projected $72,140, asking price $499K.

Building is rented by a federal government organization since 2009.

How do I estimate the cap rate a lender would cash out this property at?

I would love to think that .10 cap would be the conservative answer but I don't know if that's true. A cap of .10 would give me pretty close to no money in the deal at a 75% LTV.

Also - If someone wants to cough up enough cash to buy it out right, I'd entertain a partnership conversation. 

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Rental Property Investor · East Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
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Originally posted by @Jehon Bendokas:

@Steve Vaughan - Thanks for the response! Just to ensure I'm grasping this correctly...

If I purchase the property for $499K - $72,140 at .144 cap putting 25% down then:

Refinance the property at .08 cap = ~$900k w 75% LTV = $675k amortized over 360mo at 6% = $4050/mo PI payments

$72,140/12 = $6012/mo NOI

$6012 (monthly NOI) / $4050 (monthly PI debt) = DSCR of 1.48

I guess it would be the same over a year of 72140/48600 = 1.48 DSCR

Regarding the market analysis - I'll reach out to my lender and see what they can do for me! Thanks!

Sure.  My commercial loans have all been 5/5/20. 5 year adjust,  5 yr call, 20 yr amort.  Don't count on a 30 yr.  

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  • Rental Property Investor · East Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
    4y
    Originally posted by @Jehon Bendokas:

    This is a serious look into my first commercial property.

    I'm running numbers for a commercial medical space for sale at .144 cap rate due to a full service lease being renewed annually. NOI is projected $72,140, asking price $499K.

    Building is rented by a federal government organization since 2009.

    How do I estimate the cap rate a lender would cash out this property at?

    I would love to think that .10 cap would be the conservative answer but I don't know if that's true. A cap of .10 would give me pretty close to no money in the deal at a 75% LTV.

    Also - If someone wants to cough up enough cash to buy it out right, I'd entertain a partnership conversation. 

     They will most likely do a market analysis and value at the market cap rate for that type of asset.  My guess is it will be less than 10.  

    Maybe ask some commercial brokers and PMs in the area to get an idea of market cap. The other big underwriting decision with commercial lenders is your DSCR. I imagine this will be greater than 1.2, standard min.

  • Jehon BendokasPro Member
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    Investor · Gulf Breeze, FL · Member since 2018 · 32 posts · 19 votes
    4y

    @Steve Vaughan - Thanks for the response! Just to ensure I'm grasping this correctly...

    If I purchase the property for $499K - $72,140 at .144 cap putting 25% down then:

    Refinance the property at .08 cap = ~$900k w 75% LTV = $675k amortized over 360mo at 6% = $4050/mo PI payments

    $72,140/12 = $6012/mo NOI

    $6012 (monthly NOI) / $4050 (monthly PI debt) = DSCR of 1.48

    I guess it would be the same over a year of 72140/48600 = 1.48 DSCR

    Regarding the market analysis - I'll reach out to my lender and see what they can do for me! Thanks!

  • Rental Property Investor · East Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
    4y
    Originally posted by @Jehon Bendokas:

    @Steve Vaughan - Thanks for the response! Just to ensure I'm grasping this correctly...

    If I purchase the property for $499K - $72,140 at .144 cap putting 25% down then:

    Refinance the property at .08 cap = ~$900k w 75% LTV = $675k amortized over 360mo at 6% = $4050/mo PI payments

    $72,140/12 = $6012/mo NOI

    $6012 (monthly NOI) / $4050 (monthly PI debt) = DSCR of 1.48

    I guess it would be the same over a year of 72140/48600 = 1.48 DSCR

    Regarding the market analysis - I'll reach out to my lender and see what they can do for me! Thanks!

    Sure.  My commercial loans have all been 5/5/20. 5 year adjust,  5 yr call, 20 yr amort.  Don't count on a 30 yr.  

  • Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2008 · 187 posts · 36 votes
    4y

    No matter how rosey you spin this you gave project NOI. What is the real NOI?

    Also be conservative on deals this size and use 65% LTV.

    What are the lease terms?

    You mentioned Refi in the subject but you are buying so I ASSUME that you want advice on your exit. Simple, if you use projected NOI at 1.4 or more DSCR with max 65% LTV that is your max number.

  • Jehon BendokasPro Member
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    Investor · Gulf Breeze, FL · Member since 2018 · 32 posts · 19 votes
    4y

    @Chris Cambridge thanks for the direction!

  • Real Estate Broker · Canby, OR · Member since 2012 · 127 posts · 37 votes
    4y

    @Jehon Bendokas looks like you got a pretty great property! The lenders will definitely be more concerned about the DSCR than the cap rate.

  • Jehon BendokasPro Member
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    Investor · Gulf Breeze, FL · Member since 2018 · 32 posts · 19 votes
    4y

    @Bill Horton - I haven’t purchased it yet. Strapped for cash since I just bought a residential unit.

    I walked the property since my original post and there is some deferred maintenance cost (approx $60K) potentially. Needs new roof, HVAC work and termites. Current owner is haphazardly working the termite issue.

    I may be looking into hard money to acquire it. My bank is a little hesitant to loan more than 75% LTC on this property with the needed repairs.

  • Full time investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 405 posts · 312 votes
    4y

    The lender will go off the appraised value.  I get 10 year locks with 25 yr amt and 15-20% down on all of my deals even if it is a vacant/value add play.

  • Jehon BendokasPro Member
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    Investor · Gulf Breeze, FL · Member since 2018 · 32 posts · 19 votes
    4y

    @Ash Patel who do you use for lending?

  • Real Estate Broker · Canby, OR · Member since 2012 · 127 posts · 37 votes
    4y

    @Jehon Bendokas a bridge loan is probably the way to go until you could get the property to qualify for permanent financing.

  • Full time investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 405 posts · 312 votes
    4y

    Always a local lender 

  • Paul MoorePro Member
    Commercial Real Estate Fund Manager · Lynchburg, VA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    @Jehon Bendokas. I would have expected a far lower cap rate for a property with a long term renter like that. I'm glad to hear you are calculating the deferred maintenance. Be careful to consider worst case for everything and try to assure your tenant will be there for a long time. And consider alt uses for the asset if they leave. After it's firmly under contract, I'd recommend taking an experienced CRE investor through it to try to help uncover everything that could go wrong. Happy Investing!

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