Parking Lots & Garages - Alternative Investments

Parking Lots & Garages - Alternative Investments

Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2018 · 20 posts · 18 votes

Over the past 6 months I have been on a serious hunt to purchase income producing parking lots & structures across several markets.  Three offers made so far but no deals. I just wanted to share some of my thoughts/findings on the asset class and why I am even more bullish on parking today.  I can go on and on about parking, so I will give enough info in each section to at least start a good conversation.

Pros: 

1. Alternative investment option: Investing in income producing parking lots & structures is a good strategy right now considering the current state of the residential real estate market. I LOVE multifamily, but solid deals are getting harder to come by for most investors. Considering the eviction moratoriums, compressed CAP rates, etc., the future is unclear. *But let me be clear, I am not knocking multifamily - I am huge fan and will continue to be. But I do know a lot of investors who are looking elsewhere for a reliable return until the future becomes more clear.

I believe parking to be an ideal place to "park" capital (pun intended) due to the low capital expenditures and operating costs.  I also believe it to be a good inflationary hedge; we all see how inflation on the rise now.

2. Low cost/High margin: If purchased correctly in a prime location with reliable management in place, the investment can be a home run or at least a solid base hit. It can be done, I have spoken to many many owners and operators of lots on the how.  

3. NN (Double net) lease model: Is the ideal model for parking investments due to the reliable income guaranteed by the parking company you lease it to.  The parking company is your property manager and your tenant in this situation.  I strongly recommend against self-managing a lot.  These companies are true experts at what they do and have several levers to maximize revenue (dynamic pricing, economies of scale, technology, etc.).  Most parking companies absolutely DO NOT want to own parking.  They are operations based and will continue to stick to that model.  

Cons: 

1. Lots do not change hands often:  Due to the low cost and low headache to own the investment most owners just don't have a motivation to sell.  That's not to say they would not sale at some point.  Just don't expect an owner to be tripping over themselves to sell you their lot especially when it's cash flowing.  Sidenote: I spoke to an owner who's family owned the lot for over 80 years!  

2.  COVID hit parking really hard:  People could not and would not venture out.  Parking could not generate revenue.  Most parking companies (or at least the ones I've spoken with) tried to convert their NN leases to either revenue share or revenue management agreements.  There was just no way for them to make the agree upon payment schedule.  Although most states are opening back up, I still see some hesitance from parking operators to sign a NN lease.

3.  Most owners want development pricing:  This has been a common obstacle for me, but one that I have been able to overcome over time.  Depending on the market and seller, the development objection can be overcome.  I believe being familiar with market, the path of progress, and the current development projects in the area can all be useful. Using that info as discussion points can help.


Extra Points:

* The numbers do not work in every area. I have avoided 24hr cities (NYC, LA, Chitown) altogether.  Not to say it can't be done, I just don't want to try.  It's a big country out there, with plenty of markets where margins work better.

* Most parking owners are sophisticated. Very sophisticated. I have met some sharks along the way, but mostly good people who know what they are doing.  Rely on the parking operators to help you underwrite the deal. It's in their best interest to be accurate with projections since they are competing to lease the lot from you.  Get multiple RFPs (requests for proposals), to ensure you are making a good decision. I would recommend against just going with the incumbent operator's numbers.  

The parking companies are master operators and highly competitive.  For example: I was gathering RFPs for a 100+ space lot in a midsize city. One company went as far as to place a camera on their competitor's lot to monitor lot traffic 24/7 for 2 weeks straight. They then provided me an excel spreadsheet of every single vehicle entering and exiting.  They then backed that into a monthly projection of what they could realistic promise to pay. Ultimately, I trusted their projections which was significantly lower than what the seller was claiming.  

* I believe there is plenty of opportunity to be had in parking if done right.  I believe the key is embracing the parking industry and working with them to understand what is a good deal.  Also, it is a pretty interesting industry with technological advances occurring at light speed.

* Self driving cars will not kill parking (my sincere opinion).  Even if the technology is widely adopted in 10-20 years, there still needs to be government regulation which takes time.  Consider the cost and time it will take to mass produce affordable self driving vehicles for the everyday consumer.  

Clear example: Electric vehicles have been here for years. Still not really that affordable.  Although, they will get there in the next 5-10 years.  My point is that self driving cars if approved, are a long way off.  And from my contacts in the parking industry (whom I speak with daily) the parking industry is preparing to accommodate these vehicles vice trying to act like it will never happen.

Last points on self-driving vehicles that everyone overlooks...

1. They still have to run on some type of fuel source.  So they have to park somewhere when the owner is not around.  Also, do you really think the government will allow mass amounts of unmanned vehicles to roam the streets?

2. Self-driving vehicles will still be made of degradeable materials.  You can't just allow a car to drive constantly without wearing its parts down.  It will need to be parked.

3. Owners will want their vehicles close by for convenience.

Apologies for the book, but I am truly passionate about parking and have learned a TON.  Would love to continue the discussion with anyone interested.  Cheers!

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Ronald RohdePro Member
Attorney · Dallas, TX · Member since 2016 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
5y
Originally posted by @AP Horvath:

@Michael Bell

I have a little bit of real estate development experience. In process of entitling and building 13k of office-warehouse. 

When you say "extremely lucrative" --- what do you mean by that specifically?

35% internal cap rate? Project payback period of two years? 100% IRR?



Love this conversation, I have 4 acres that is fully leased for outdoor industrial storage. Its in Plano which is not approving any more of this type of storage. I am bullish on this sector as well and would love to put more capital towards it.

RE: truck parking, I get maybe 2-5 calls a week for tractor trailer parking, I cannot handle the capacity, but there is another competing location in Ft. Worth.

https://www.truckpark.com/truc...

https://saleasing.net/

There is a strong market, I think you need a strong web SEO because my website is #1 or 2 on google which drives the phone calls. I get another 10-15 a week just for boat and rv parking, but we're full! 

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  • Real Estate Broker · Coppell, TX · Member since 2011 · 5k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    4y

    Will we need parking lots in 10 years if we have autonomous cars that will require less vehicles and potentially less parking?  I dream the autonomous car drives around, so it doesn't have to pay for parking, or parks in the free 2 hours spots for 1hr 59mins, then moves to another free spot, until we're done with work....then picks up the happy hour crowd for the commute home.   Or maybe it goes and picks up groceries, dry cleaning, takes the dog to grooming, go to maintenance, picks up kids from school and takes them to soccer.

    I wonder what we do with all the garages at homes...that have 2-3 car garages?  Turn them into game rooms?  Media rooms?

    How many years are we away from level 5 autonomous??? 5years...10 years?

    What kind of leverage do you get on parking lots?   60% 70% or less?

    Are there institutional buyers for parking lots?

  • Ronald RohdePro Member
    Attorney · Dallas, TX · Member since 2016 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y
    Originally posted by @Marco Rodriguez:

    @Ronald Rohde Thanks for sharing. I am in the process of moving back to Denton County, Texas and actively looking for outside storage lots to invest in. I have 2 in Georgia which are cash-flowing machines and I really like the space. I've driven I-35 mining for "nuggets" but haven't found anything just yet.

     Awesome, welcome back to Texas! Yes, parking lots are great for cash flow, just be prepared for the ultimate highest and best use down the road.

    @Bruce Lynn If it lasts 5 years, I'm fine with that. No matter what comes, I'd say you have to be prepared to adapt. Those EVs will need something, maintenance? charging? washing? We control the land and can invest or lease to tenants who want to serve the new economy. If the L5 comes after 5 years, we can sell before then so I don't hear that criticism toward older apartments or older housing!

  • Rental Property Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2019 · 5 posts · 1 vote
    4y

    This discussion is fantastic. My firm and I specialize in the restoration and repair of parking structures, and aim to help owners extend the service life of their assets. Am curious to understand how investors are evaluating the condition of the assets before purchasing, and what they are doing to maintain the asset over its service life. If I can help in any way, please reach out!

  • Joel OwensBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Canton, GA · Member since 2010 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    4y

    Parking lot can be great but I focus on long term dirt value and highest and best use. That can be where huge gains come in.

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