Buying an Off-Market deal WITHOUT a Realtor

Buying an Off-Market deal WITHOUT a Realtor

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I'm currently renting a house from an owner in California and the owner wants to sell it ASAP. We've discussed buying the house directly from her (off-market/before she tries to sell it) and she told us to make her an offer. She has made it clear that she will not be using a seller agent to represent her and that she is looking to get "market value" (wants the bidding war common in the CA market) and will NOT consider seller financing.

Currently I am trying to figure out how to make a compelling offer (knowing seller's alternative is to wait for the bidding war to ensue) -considering things like paying all seller closing costs, waving any requests for credits (based on issues that come up in the inspection), but most likely keeping all the contingencies. The house needs quite a bit of cosmetic work/upgrades, but we are aware of these issues (since I've been living there for 2+ years). Long term strategy would be a buy & hold with sweat equity to provide some added value. Also considering foregoing a real estate agent and just working with a real estate attorney to save on closing costs. The money saved would allow me to better fund the rehab.

Would appreciate opinions on forgoing a buyers real estate agent to represent me since I live there, know the market, and already have a relationship with the seller, have access to the property, etc. This would be my first property. Also would love to hear your thoughts on how else we can make the offer more enticing besides throwing more money at it. Unfortunately at this point in my investing career, I have more time than money. 

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Rental Property Investor · Concord, NC · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
5y

Cash, no contingencies, close in 10 days (ensure your attorney is on board). The offer is good for 24 hours. 

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  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, Massachusetts (MA) · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    @Alyssa Davis well if you are not working with a buyers agent and she doesn't have an agent you are working with a 5-6% "bonus" to her if she gets market value or a share of that same discount to you. Depending on how knowlegable you are I would have a contractor/inspector look at the place and then waive inspection contingency. One advantage of living there.

    As long as you have a real estate attorney willing to work with you (as in YOUR attorney, not the banks) you don't need the broker, though of course there are disadvantage to not having a good one.

    If you have the downpayment thats your best bet, line up your financing. Get a number from her. You never know what she is thinking. Great part is she will almost certainly screw up the whole bidding war idea...that works best if you get the wide exposure a broker gives you and if you price it competitively to begin with. Classic way to screw up doing just what she is planning, and likely overpricing it. bet she is not planing to pay buyers broker commission either. Definitely cuts down on visibility.

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    Rental Property Investor · Columbia, SC · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    @Alyssa Davis I am not a fan of first time buyers using no representation but you seem like you're pretty sharp and have thought through this. I think working through a RE attorney would be helpful and absolutely would keep inspection and appraisal contingencies.  

    I think the best thing to do re: negotiation, offer etc and step into the shoes of the seller. What would be the benefit of selling directly to you?

    A few things come to mind:

    -Zero commissions

    -Zero vacancy costs

    -Very small chance that you'd back out of the contract due to the fact you already know the property well

    The above 3 reasons are pretty significant. I am sure the seller has considered all of them. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Concord, NC · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    5y

    Cash, no contingencies, close in 10 days (ensure your attorney is on board). The offer is good for 24 hours. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    5y

    Have an agent run comps pay them a little. Then make a strong offer with contingencies. Here in KC title companies has contract docs but you can also use an attorney. Then treat it like a normal deal. Do inspections then appraisal. 

  • Investor · Durham, NC · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 691 votes
    5y

    @Alyssa Davis I'd say if you know a seller who's willing to pay the price you want, then go for it. Usually, you work with a realtor to get top dollar. If you can do that without paying a realtor's commission, then that's even better.

  • Real Estate Broker · Kansas City Metro · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Alyssa Davis like @Caleb Brown says, get a realtor. It will be more than worth your time and you won't really save any money. Having someone exclusively on your side does help ensure the property gets closed. 

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