Help with basic calculation

Help with basic calculation

Houston, TX · Member since 2010 · 150 posts · 159 votes

I have run numbers trying to decide if holding SF properties is really worth the hassle and time compared to just investing in hands off investments like mutual funds or syndications.  For instance I have one property I am considering selling.  I bought the property in 2012 for 71k.  I spent 23k out of pocket.  I can now sell the property for 220k.  I would walk away with about 110k after paying off the mortgage, realtor fees, taxes, depreciation recapture, and other small expenses to sell for retail value.  For me the only return I care about is how much I walk away with on the initial investment of 23k.  I don't factor in CF because that just pays for ongoing repairs, maintenance and vacancies.  So roughly the return is about 19% when considered over 9 years.  I understand there are other calculations that can be used to determine the returns but I am trying to use the same scenario as if I just placed the 23k in a mutual fund.  Is this the proper way to think of returns or am I missing something?

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  • Alecia LovelessPro Member
    Member since 2019 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    @Wade G. I’m sure others will answer with better responses but I would have to take into consideration all of the write-offs I had gotten on my taxes during this time too. Obviously you will have to recapture your interest and things that you depreciated I believe and that you wrote off during the time you owned it ( if I’m saying that correctly) on your taxes the year following the sale, but I’m talking about other things you were able to write-off if you did so.

    For instance I write off a portion of my cell phone and the cell phone service now that I’ve got 10 units. I would say over 9 years if I looked back it was $2700 for 1/2 my service and $1100 for slightly less than 1/2 of 3 new phones. That’s just one example. And I don’t know how phones are handled, if they’re depreciated or not.

    Just my little thought! Hopefully some others will have some more for you.

  • Tim DelaneyPro Member
    Buffalo, NY · Member since 2018 · 790 posts · 530 votes
    5y

    @Wade G. Using a basic compounding interest calculator and an interest rate of 8% it seems you would have just about doubled your $23k investment over 9 years ending up with about $45k (that does not take into consideration any taxes you owe on that gain). So if you sell the house now and end up with $110k it seems to me that you made the wise decision.

    Add in any nominal cash flow, the ancillary write offs you could have been taking to lower your taxes over the years and the RE looks far superior to the 8% market return.

    I have no idea how much of a hassle your property was, but was it worth the roughly extra $7k you earned per year?

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