Owner a multiple properties having trouble getting Commercial loa

Owner a multiple properties having trouble getting Commercial loa

Member since 2017 · 5 posts · 3 votes
About me: -I currently own 7 properties (3 are duplexes) -Only have loans on 2 duplex's in Alaska -Excellent credit score -Steady private sector job earning a decent wage The majority of my debt comes from my properties I own in Alaska. I would like to purchase a 6+plex and have been able to save up a substantial amount for a down payment (around 40-50%) if i need it. I called rocket mortgage and started the loan process. Eventually they came back to me and said that my debt to income ratio wasn't good enough and that 2 of the properties in my portfolio did not have 2 years worth of returns so they couldn't be included in the figures. Also, that the majority of my properties did not see very much (if any profit). I explained to them that I buy properties that are not updated and each year I reinvest a large amount of the rent into the properties to increase their overall value. For example; a duplex i bought from the muni a few years back, I put up a privacy fence around the entire property which ate up 65% of the rent for that year. The very same year i furnished one of those units and started to Airbnb it out. They did not care about any of it. Even when i asked if that they are taking into account the projected income i would make off of that 6plex, they said, "we cannot take it into account unless its been 2 years of reported income. " I think what frustrated me the most was that when i spoke to the rep who was telling me i was declined and explained to him that even though my "Debt to Income" was not as low as they'd like i have still been able to amass a huge down payment and able to pay off a portion on my portfolio on top of that. I wanted the human factor involved and not just some computer spitting out a percentage and everyone else saying "Well the computer says no." Any advice for someone looking to expand their portfolio with a commercial loan? Thanks!
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Tyson CoxPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Soldotna, AK · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 28 votes
5y

Alaska has a great commercial property loan through AHFC with excellent terms. They are currently at 5%-5.5% amortized for 30 years. You do have to keep reserves with them for $350-$375 per year per door and they take longer to close. They will lump multiple properties together to get 5+ units if the buildings are within a certain proximity (in Soldotna it was several miles). To date we have done three of these loans. Private message me if you would like to discuss this more :) 

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  • Investor · Anchorage, AK · Member since 2018 · 73 posts · 75 votes
    5y

    @Lucas Wacker - Have you tried a local bank or credit union and their commercial loan department?  I think you'll find they will be much easier to work with than rocket mortgage or any of the bulk online loan originators.  Commercial bankers are also much more accustomed to using the income from the property you are purchasing as a part of the initial underwriting. 

  • Member since 2017 · 5 posts · 3 votes
    5y

    appreciate the advice. I will inquire with a local bank this week. Hopefully the results are much different. 

  • Tyson CoxPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Soldotna, AK · Member since 2014 · 73 posts · 28 votes
    5y

    Alaska has a great commercial property loan through AHFC with excellent terms. They are currently at 5%-5.5% amortized for 30 years. You do have to keep reserves with them for $350-$375 per year per door and they take longer to close. They will lump multiple properties together to get 5+ units if the buildings are within a certain proximity (in Soldotna it was several miles). To date we have done three of these loans. Private message me if you would like to discuss this more :) 

  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, Massachusetts (MA) · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    yeah, you shouldn't be anywhere near rocket mortgage. Build up a relationship with a local bank (or two)  for commercial and portfolio loans. You are the kind of investor the banks want because they have the incentive to delve deep into your profile and the property values and assess risk in a way that rocket and any of the big guys would never do. Their advantage is to find the successful guys outside the computers box. 

    I mean, 50% loan to value? Talk to a real pro they will be all over this.

  • Lender · Denver, CO · Member since 2017 · 348 posts · 143 votes
    5y

    So I would say look into other lenders. The fact that they are telling you they cannot use income for those properties since they are less than 2 years old tells me that they are not knowledgeable in how to properly set up a loan with investment properties. The underwriter is going to look to make sure that you as an investor have 2 years history as a landlord in order to use rental income as qualifying income not that each property has 2 years. So I would say talk to a few local lenders and see if they are able to help you and make sure that they have experience putting together investment property loans because even though all lenders have the ability to do those loans as you have figured out not all loan officers know how to actually set them up properly and get them done. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Anchorage, AK · Member since 2017 · 294 posts · 182 votes
    5y

    @Lucas Wacker -Hit me up - and I'll give you the run down on local institutions for commercial loans - AHFC is good - but sometimes you need a different option. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    5y

    RUN from Rocket Mortgage. A local bank that does commercial would be a way better fit. 6plex falls into commercial so they'll take into account the asset

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