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What is Zestimate and what does is mean?
If the house is damaged is the estimate on Zillow given according to its condition?
I told my investor that the house is $84,000. We had a GC check it out and said rehab will cost ~$20,000.
I used the public records to find comps and ARV is estimated to be ~$200,000.
Investor replied that "Zestimate (on Zillow) says $80,000-$112,000. So how can you get an ARV of $200,000".
What am I doing wrong? What is Zestimate? If the picture on Zillow shows a damaged house, is the estimate according to the condition?
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@Sonal Kalia Zillow's "Zestimate" is a running joke in the industry. They are so bad that I wouldn't even use them to get in the ballpark.
They don't get direct MLS feeds in all markets, so they scrape date from wherever they find it.
Here's our old house - we sold it for $481,250 in February, 2017. https://www.zillow.com/homes/3...
They give a Zestimate range of $527,000 - $602,000 and state that the home's value has increased by $4,510 (0.8%) in the last 30 days.
Both of those claims are laughable. There's a $75,000 range from lowest to highest price. And no, that home has not gone up by almost 1% in 30 days. Plymouth County, Mass has been rising at about 6% per year.
One source of their inaccuracy is that Zillow has no idea of the interior condition. They can't tell if it was a full gut renovation built to the highest standards, a "lipstick on a pig" where the builder did schlock work or a home that hasn't been updated since 1945. The same goes for Realtor.com, Redfin or anyone else who uses automated systems for price estimates.
Another real life example. I recently sold my home in Plymouth, Mass as we relocated to Maine. I saw an ad from Homelite and responded to it. They gave me a selling price estimate of $282,000 - $304,000. I actually sold it for $525,000.
There is no substitute for real comps and I don't see one coming anytime soon.