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Updated over 4 years ago, 08/13/2020

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David Haynes
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Transfer Taxes: Cutting Out the Noise

David Haynes
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia
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I wanted to share what I have learned about transfer taxes, how they affect the value of homes, and ultimately your profitability. It can be tricky, so I wanted to share my research and some conclusions.

First of all, transfer taxes are so incredibly different from state to state. Check out this summary. For those investing inter-state, it can become quite a headache understanding those differences. I am in Pennsylvania where the transfer tax is seemingly simple. But there are even more differences to be discovered among Pennsylvania’s counties. Philadelphia has a 4.278% tax on the exchange of real estate. This can be split between the buyer and seller or paid fully by the buyer. The neighboring counties (Montgomery County and Delaware County) have a transfer tax of 2%. The state of PA sets the base level of 1%. Counties have the freedom to add on top of that.

The biggest question is how this plays into the value of the home and, ultimately, the bottom line of the investor's analysis. In PA, the transfer tax has become a bargaining tool. “I’ll accept $100,000 if you pay the full transfer tax.” For someone adept at finance, this trick makes no difference. For a novice investor, it can be a bit confusing. Essentially, every investor must realize how the tax can affect their profitability. I personally have set up an excel sheet with drop-down boxes allowing me to choose between “split and full” and “Philly/Montco/Delco”. It cuts out all the noise as I analyze a deal. It may be helpful to do the same. Otherwise, you'll be fumbling with your calculator when every second counts.

I want to address a misconception I have seen. Some investors focus on low transfer tax counties assuming it saves them money and protects their investment. However, for buy-and-holders, the opposite may be true. Research has shown that the introduction of a transfer tax or the raising thereof has an IMMEDIATE effect on the value of a home. A newly introduced transfer tax affects the current homeowner, not subsequent homeowners.

One can assume that high transfer tax counties have a lower probability of raising the tax in the future. Low transfer tax counties have a higher probability of raising that tax. Buying in Delaware County (2%), as opposed to Philadelphia (4.278%), actually increases your chances of losing value if the 2% tax rate were increased. So avoiding a high transfer tax county is counterproductive. For flippers, this risk is minimal, since their investment is short-term.

In conclusion: Firstly, transfer taxes can be difficult to navigate but don’t be distracted by its noise. Ultimately see how it affects your profitability. This is a numbers game. Don't let negotiation fool you. Secondly, don’t think that lower transfer tax counties or states are a safe haven. The opposite could prove to be true. Low transfer tax counties have a higher probability for future increases. Nevertheless, a 1% increase is not going to break you. 

How have transfer taxes affected your investments? Have you ever considered it a deal-breaker? Why? Is there anything that makes your state/county tax unique? I would love to hear about it.

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Alex Uman
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Alex Uman
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Another great post @David Haynes! I've seen buyers scared of Philly county for this specific reason. While it does add to initial closing cost and is odd for those coming from lower tax areas, it is a necessary evil to just add on to closing costs. Some of the best flips are to be had in rapidly appreciating areas across Philadelphia and using transfer tax as an excuse to avoid investing here will leave you in the dust!

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Chris K.
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Chris K.
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@David Haynes

I agree with the general point of your post. Realty transfer taxes alone shouldn't block an investor from investing in an area with higher rates. 

But I do have to disagree on this comment:

Low transfer tax counties have a higher probability for future increases.


This is not true. All the municipalities with higher tax rates are what they call "Home Rule Charter" municipalities. Only those municipalities can impose a higher rate than the default 2%. To be technically correct, Philadelphia has its own realty transfer tax statute. But the net effect is same as other municipalities that can take advantage of the Home Rule Charter. They can charge basically whatever they want. 

It's worth noting that there are a handful of jurisdictions that charge significantly more than the default 2%. Last time I checked, only about 15 municipalities had a tax rate that is higher than 3%. Out of those 15, only Philly, Pittsburgh, Scranton and Reading have consistently had rates over 4%. I believe Pittsburgh recently decided to increase it to 5%.  

The only commonality between all the municipalities that have these higher taxes is that: (1) they are all populous areas; and (2) they have histrionically struggled with severe budget deficits. 

Disclaimer: While I’m an attorney licensed to practice in PA, I’m not your attorney. What I wrote above does not create an attorney/client relationship between us. I wrote the above for informational purposes. Do not rely on it for legal advice. Always consult with your attorney before you rely on the above information.

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David Haynes
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David Haynes
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Originally posted by @Chris K.:

@David Haynes

I agree with the general point of your post. Realty transfer taxes alone shouldn't block an investor from investing in an area with higher rates. 

But I do have to disagree on this comment:

Low transfer tax counties have a higher probability for future increases.


This is not true. All the municipalities with higher tax rates are what they call "Home Rule Charter" municipalities. Only those municipalities can impose a higher rate than the default 2%. To be technically correct, Philadelphia has its own realty transfer tax statute. But the net effect is same as other municipalities that can take advantage of the Home Rule Charter. They can charge basically whatever they want. 

It's worth noting that there are a handful of jurisdictions that charge significantly more than the default 2%. Last time I checked, only about 15 municipalities had a tax rate that is higher than 3%. Out of those 15, only Philly, Pittsburgh, Scranton and Reading have consistently had rates over 4%. I believe Pittsburgh recently decided to increase it to 5%.  

The only commonality between all the municipalities that have these higher taxes is that: (1) they are all populous areas; and (2) they have histrionically struggled with severe budget deficits. 

Disclaimer: While I’m an attorney licensed to practice in PA, I’m not your attorney. What I wrote above does not create an attorney/client relationship between us. I wrote the above for informational purposes. Do not rely on it for legal advice. Always consult with your attorney before you rely on the above information.

 Thanks for your input! Love it!

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Elise Bickel Tauber
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Elise Bickel Tauber
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Originally posted by @Chris K.:

@David Haynes

I agree with the general point of your post. Realty transfer taxes alone shouldn't block an investor from investing in an area with higher rates. 

But I do have to disagree on this comment:

Low transfer tax counties have a higher probability for future increases.


This is not true. All the municipalities with higher tax rates are what they call "Home Rule Charter" municipalities. Only those municipalities can impose a higher rate than the default 2%. To be technically correct, Philadelphia has its own realty transfer tax statute. But the net effect is same as other municipalities that can take advantage of the Home Rule Charter. They can charge basically whatever they want. 

It's worth noting that there are a handful of jurisdictions that charge significantly more than the default 2%. Last time I checked, only about 15 municipalities had a tax rate that is higher than 3%. Out of those 15, only Philly, Pittsburgh, Scranton and Reading have consistently had rates over 4%. I believe Pittsburgh recently decided to increase it to 5%.  

The only commonality between all the municipalities that have these higher taxes is that: (1) they are all populous areas; and (2) they have histrionically struggled with severe budget deficits. 

Disclaimer: While I’m an attorney licensed to practice in PA, I’m not your attorney. What I wrote above does not create an attorney/client relationship between us. I wrote the above for informational purposes. Do not rely on it for legal advice. Always consult with your attorney before you rely on the above information.

Chris is right about the city of Pittsburgh. When in the city limits, the transfer tax is 5% where in the surrounding suburbs it is 2%. There are a few other areas that is higher then 2% but I know this difference in transfer tax has dissuaded many investors from buying in the city limits!

  • Elise Bickel Tauber