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How would you finance your FIRST 20 houses if all STRs?
To me, Airbnb Short Term is done. Covid forced adaptation to long term, by the room, and whereas an 8k/m net house turned into a 4k/m net, the time / attention required cut to 5%, and I'm not needing to go back. Coliving, instead of STRs, my new jam.
But, if your just starting out like me, and have a proven track record to cashflow rentals ( airbnb arbitrage ) and are ready to start buying, the STR strategy breaks a fundamental link in the BRRRR Model.
My understanding: ( pls correct where I am wrong ) - Is that to finance the first house, you need to show 3x the mortgage payment in income. Lets say you made 108k/year the last 2 years. 108k/12 months = 9k/month. 9k/3 = 3k. So you can afford a mortgage payment up to roughly 3k/month.
If you follow the BRRRR model and its time to repeat, you need to account for that 3k/m mortgage to qualify for the next one. So, ideally you get a lease signed for 1.3x the mortgage cost, it offsets the expense and your qualified again? Is that about right?
But what IF your real gift is in cash-flowing that house by not requiring leases? Month to month tenancy through Airbnb forming coliving spaces will earn 8k/m in the house that's got a 3k/m mortgage. After expenses, about 4k/month profit if done well.
Then you dont have the lease to show the bank! Unless you wait 2 years, file the taxes, show the income that way, your business model just froze.
Strategies? Corrections? Feedback?
Im digging into this and researching it daily, and this is the best idea I have got.
Instead of my running the Coliving space, move operations to my LLC. Have my LLC run the business, and have it sign a lease with me for the space at 1.3 x the mortgage rate. Present that signed lease to the broker to forge the next lease.
Would that work? Got better ideas?
2nd best idea: Find the house you want to buy, offer to lease as master tenant with option to buy, ( and plan / intent to buy ).
Then, lease it to your LLC.
Then approach the banks for a mortgage to purchase the house with the lease, already cashflowing.
Would that work? I am only interested in fully legal, above board ideas. In both of these ideas, the LLC would actually cashflow the property and pay the actual lease payments.
2nd Question for fun: I am learning that forming a trust, which runs a C Corp ( instead of an LLC ), provides a legal buffer that protects your net worth from frivolous lawsuits legally. The trust does no business except with the C Corp, leasing houses/equipment, at a profit. the C Corp makes little money and has no possessions, thus, if sued, lawsuits would fall short.
Anyone have experience and/or feedback about this?
I understand this is also a perfectly legal and above board way of reducing tax liability through effective tax rates from roughly 28% to roughly 15%, and a common practice among the wealthy. Would love feedback!