Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Buying & Selling Real Estate
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated over 4 years ago,

User Stats

13
Posts
8
Votes
Terry Zannella
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tampa, FL
8
Votes |
13
Posts

Refi vs Sell small multifamily after value add?

Terry Zannella
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tampa, FL
Posted

Hi there,

I’m looking for some advice on how to determine whether to (a) Cash out Refi or (b) Sell, in order to reinvest profits after a successful value add on 2 diff 4-plex’s.

Details:

I own 2 near identical 4-plex’s in Phoenix, Arizona. One street apart from each other in an older neighborhood with a lot of similar properties. 1st Building rehab is complete/re-rented (higher rents), and the other rehab will be complete soon (1 - 2 weeks). I also have interested tenants for the 2d building. Contractor has been completing work as scheduled.

Purchase Price: $275k ea Down
Payment: $69k ea (25%down)

Purchase costs: $8k

Out of pocket costs: $77k ea

Current Mortgages: $205k ea

Renovations: $65k ea building

ARV: $550k-$575k ea based on comps

New Rents: 4k per 4-plex per month (1k ea unit)

Actual Expenses: 1.2k per month (Mgmt, Vacancy, Maint, Capex, utilities, landscape, taxes, insurance)

NOI: 33.6k (2.8k per month x 12)

-I can Sell at $550k (a buyer recently made an offer at that price), a separate 1031 buyer is supposed to provide an offer early next week.

or

-I can Refi (local lender who I do business with and knows the property details will offer terms up to 80% LTV, ~4% fixed, 10 year balloon, 25 year Am). I verified this info 2 days ago.

*Same lender above will loan on replacement property, similar terms, if I sell and purchase another property.

My thoughts:

-C Class properties (that I like), good tenants (all paying), good location, good property manager & good lender make me consider Refi and look to purchase another 1-2 properties in same neighborhood and repeat.

—Refi both at 550k ea (assuming they appraise), 75% Cash out Refi = 825k minus 410k mortgages - 130k rehab - ~10k refi fees = $275k to buy more RE

*Neighborhood comps for un-renovated 4-plex = approx $450k ea

or

-Selling and locking in profits from both buildings then 1031 into 1 larger commercial property may offer chance to scale up to larger property (with another value add).

—Sell both at $550k = $1.1M minus 410k mortgages - 130k rehab - 88k (approx 8% commissions/fees) = $472k to buy more RE

Concerns:

Refi: With 4-plex valued with comps instead of NOI, I'm at the top of market for them right now, which means minimal room for further value add/appreciation and now might be great time to sell, though I am happy with Cashflow.

Sell: What can I find as a replacement? I have a great realtor who consistently has off market properties, but can I find one that makes sense within 1031 window? Will any efficiencies of 1 bldg offset costs of having 3-4 separate 4-plex’s?

I tried to keep this brief and include relevant details, let me know if I’m missing anything.

I appreciate any thoughts or insight into how you would make a decision.

Thank you.

Terry

Loading replies...