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Posted Feb 11 2020, 20:19

https://www.youtube.com/post/U...  Looks like Mr. Morris has flown into Texas and has a new gig. 

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Replied Feb 11 2020, 20:57

How could no one do their homework on who they are working for? There is no way they can't have some idea that he's under investigation.  

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Replied Feb 12 2020, 01:00

Whats the deal with him?

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Replied Feb 12 2020, 03:04
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

https://www.youtube.com/post/U...  Looks like Mr. Morris has flown into Texas and has a new gig. 

@James Wise

 lol 1st two comments are priceless.

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Replied Feb 12 2020, 03:28
Originally posted by @John Collins:

Whats the deal with him?

Clayton Morris Texas

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Replied Feb 12 2020, 07:33
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

https://www.youtube.com/post/U...  Looks like Mr. Morris has flown into Texas and has a new gig. 

@James Wise

 I think I've heard of this guy....

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Replied Feb 12 2020, 11:03

@Jay Hinrichs Thanks for the PSA post. I've seen some of his YouTube, but since I've not had him in my sights as a person to work with, I've never really looked in to him to determine his legitimacy. Goes to show the value of doing some background checking.

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Replied Feb 12 2020, 16:13

Damn, that video disappeared post-haste.

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Replied Feb 13 2020, 06:02

I would guess that video was definitely not taken currently in Texas as I'm sure there are flags if he tries to enter the United States.

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Replied Feb 13 2020, 06:30
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

https://www.youtube.com/post/U...  Looks like Mr. Morris has flown into Texas and has a new gig. 

@James Wise

 lol 1st two comments are priceless.

 Speaking of hilarious comments did anyone else see Clayton's wife Natali Morris chime in on the @Mark Ferguson video on the Morris Invest scandel?

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Replied Feb 13 2020, 06:34
Originally posted by @Harvey Levin:

I would guess that video was definitely not taken currently in Texas as I'm sure there are flags if he tries to enter the United States.

that was my thought he would risk his passport being taken ??  it looked like a Jolly bunch though.. 

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Replied Feb 13 2020, 07:03

What was the video about? I saw he posted a dinner and van trip pictures on the community page of youTube. I also saw he mentioned he is doing new construction in Lubbock Texas. It was ironic that the same day he was posting those pictures he also posted a video on Instagram that said it was shot in Portugal. 

@James Wise do my comments show up on his community page? I posted one to the same picture you showed with them in the van. I am wondering if he blocked me. 

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Replied Feb 13 2020, 09:51

Clayton Morris called the HR department of my employer on Feb 12th. He told the HR manager that I have been harassing him online and making threatening and violent comments against him. I took the opportunity to explain what a fraud this douchebag is. We had a good laugh. I told HR the next time he calls to just send the call over to me. And if you want to talk to me directly Clayton, my extension is 318.

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Replied Feb 13 2020, 10:00
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Clayton Morris called the HR department of my employer on Feb 12th. He told the HR manager that I have been harassing him online and making threatening and violent comments against him. I took the opportunity to explain what a fraud this douchebag is. We had a good laugh. I told HR the next time he calls to just send the call over to me. And if you want to talk to me directly Clayton, my extension is 318.

WOW.. that's something..  and really to me personally quite petty.. 

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Replied Feb 13 2020, 10:51
Originally posted by @Mark Ferguson:

What was the video about? I saw he posted a dinner and van trip pictures on the community page of youTube. I also saw he mentioned he is doing new construction in Lubbock Texas. It was ironic that the same day he was posting those pictures he also posted a video on Instagram that said it was shot in Portugal. 

@James Wise do my comments show up on his community page? I posted one to the same picture you showed with them in the van. I am wondering if he blocked me. 

 Those must have been deleted as I don't see any comments from you on that photo.

P.S.

Mark don't sue me for using a picture of your Lambo.

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Replied Feb 13 2020, 10:55
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Clayton Morris called the HR department of my employer on Feb 12th. He told the HR manager that I have been harassing him online and making threatening and violent comments against him. I took the opportunity to explain what a fraud this douchebag is. We had a good laugh. I told HR the next time he calls to just send the call over to me. And if you want to talk to me directly Clayton, my extension is 318.

 Perhaps your mother or your wife is next?

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Replied Feb 13 2020, 11:08


He has called me mentally disabled in his Youtube comments!



Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Clayton Morris called the HR department of my employer on Feb 12th. He told the HR manager that I have been harassing him online and making threatening and violent comments against him. I took the opportunity to explain what a fraud this douchebag is. We had a good laugh. I told HR the next time he calls to just send the call over to me. And if you want to talk to me directly Clayton, my extension is 318.

WOW.. that's something..  and really to me personally quite petty.. 

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Replied Feb 13 2020, 11:09
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Mark Ferguson:

What was the video about? I saw he posted a dinner and van trip pictures on the community page of youTube. I also saw he mentioned he is doing new construction in Lubbock Texas. It was ironic that the same day he was posting those pictures he also posted a video on Instagram that said it was shot in Portugal. 

@James Wise do my comments show up on his community page? I posted one to the same picture you showed with them in the van. I am wondering if he blocked me. 

 Those must have been deleted as I don't see any comments from you on that photo.

P.S.

Mark don't sue me for using a picture of your Lambo.

 hahaha, I will only sue for 6 million. I can still see my posts on his page so it looks lock I can still post. I wondered why no one responded or liked my comments. So sad. 

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Replied Feb 13 2020, 14:14
Originally posted by @Mark Ferguson:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Mark Ferguson:

What was the video about? I saw he posted a dinner and van trip pictures on the community page of youTube. I also saw he mentioned he is doing new construction in Lubbock Texas. It was ironic that the same day he was posting those pictures he also posted a video on Instagram that said it was shot in Portugal. 

@James Wise do my comments show up on his community page? I posted one to the same picture you showed with them in the van. I am wondering if he blocked me. 

 Those must have been deleted as I don't see any comments from you on that photo.

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Mark don't sue me for using a picture of your Lambo.

 hahaha, I will only sue for 6 million. I can still see my posts on his page so it looks lock I can still post. I wondered why no one responded or liked my comments. So sad. 

So what you're saying is I basically just made $1,176,000 then? Lol do you know that this dummy Clayton Morris didn't even own the copyright on the photo he's suing me for until AFTER I used it? He went and copyrighted it after the fact so he could sue me and try to get YouTube to pull the films down. 

Beyond that even though the use of the photo was completely legal under fair use we stopped using it once we found out he copyrighted it as to avoid the hassle of dealing with him........Clayton Morris is the biggest joke in the real estate industry I have ever seen. I'd imagine people in their 30's during this whole thing will one day be telling their grand children about how much of a jack*ss Clayton Morris was.

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Replied Feb 13 2020, 14:33
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Clayton Morris called the HR department of my employer on Feb 12th. He told the HR manager that I have been harassing him online and making threatening and violent comments against him. I took the opportunity to explain what a fraud this douchebag is. We had a good laugh. I told HR the next time he calls to just send the call over to me. And if you want to talk to me directly Clayton, my extension is 318.

THAT, you actually could sue for.. although you'd probably have to get in line behind all the other people that are currently "victimizing" him.. 

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Replied Feb 13 2020, 16:45
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

https://www.youtube.com/post/U...  Looks like Mr. Morris has flown into Texas and has a new gig. 

@James Wise

 lol 1st two comments are priceless.

 Anyone notice how young each and every person in the van is? Reminds me of those groups of young people recruited to go out and sell door to door.

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Replied Feb 14 2020, 06:18
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

https://www.youtube.com/post/U...  Looks like Mr. Morris has flown into Texas and has a new gig. 

@James Wise

 lol 1st two comments are priceless.

 Anyone notice how young each and every person in the van is? Reminds me of those groups of young people recruited to go out and sell door to door.

I'd feel safer huffing people's coughs in Wuhan, China than working for Clayton Morris.

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Replied Feb 14 2020, 07:40
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

https://www.youtube.com/post/U...  Looks like Mr. Morris has flown into Texas and has a new gig. 

@James Wise

 lol 1st two comments are priceless.

 Anyone notice how young each and every person in the van is? Reminds me of those groups of young people recruited to go out and sell door to door.

I'd feel safer huffing people's coughs in Wuhan, China than working for Clayton Morris.

 Yea...people get suckered all the time by bad players. I mean, if you take an honest and comprehensive look at society and all the places where a racket exists and we all go along with it, it's pretty staggering really. Another view on that is it's good for the economy, a little destruction that is, inefficiency. And yet, we have more of everything everyday despite that. At least here in the US.

It's actually just a bit too easy. Finding a sucker to go along that is. They say there's one born everyday, I wonder if that might be more like one every minute, every second maybe?

I happen to think the reason is fear and pride. Fear of the truth. Fear of accepting what must be done in the light of the truth. Too prideful to admit we are gullible and stupid. Powerful emotions those are. And of course, in the end, we are all slaves to our stomach, the most powerful master we face in our time here. That tends to sway people away from doing "the right thing".

Everyday, day after day, there are new people coming on BP and wanting in this game. They have no idea why or how or what to do. They seek some dream, and their course is plotted in this direction. The tree of suckers is so ripe, so plentiful, so endless. How do you suppose all the Clayton Morris's of the world are ever going to be able to resist that? Think of a drug addict that might wake up in the morning and their favorite vice is waiting for them on their nightstand.

That picture says it all really. Every one of those people is beaming with joy and hope and excitement. My favorite is the blond girl at the back that is smiling and staring out the window as she dreams beyond the moment. Clayton will never run short of feeding his vice. (the blond girl in the front seat looks a lot like the gal from Cooks Country on PBS)

I love that you and Jay have taken on this battle. I suspect you both also understand exactly what I just said, and take the battle on anyways - I find that admirable. Ironically, I also think Clayton is right about you in a way, that the only thing you might accomplish with all of this is self-promotion. Maybe he's not so dumb after all, just an evil ****er. And maybe, just maybe, not even that.

But truly, is there anything wrong with making a buck while exploiting evil and steering people in a better direction? Not to me. I say bravo. I say what else can we do? We all have to eat, everyday.

There is an opportunity for firms like yours right now in this space. I've thought about entering it myself. Pretty much for all the same reasons. Opportunity, wealth, do-gooding. The only real difference between you or myself and Clayton is the last part of do-gooding. And maybe, just maybe, Clayton actually believes he is doing good for people. I mean, go back to the first thing I said, pride and fear. People lie to themselves all the time. People might even lie to themselves more than they lie to others. I'd say that makes a person more of a fool than evil. I won't be surprised if that's the defense if Clayton ever gets his day in court.

LOL - Someone should write a book on how to not get scammed. Heck, someone probably already has. I wonder how the sales of that book stack up to the sales of "get rich in a day in real estate".

My two cents? (well, three or four at this point) Just don't let this ****er consume you my friend.

And I'll leave this commentary with a final thought about our friend Clayton. A person need not serve others to make lots of money investing in real estate. In fact, most players serve only themselves. And yet, after failing at serving others in a grand way, Clayton has decided to pick up right where he left off and continue down that path anyways. To me, that says it all about the sort of person Clayton is. In some past Asian cultures, if you acted dishonorably, the only honorable thing to do would be commit suicide. I'm not saying I think Clayton should do that of course, I'm just pointing out that after failing others, instead of giving that up because he's clearly not qualified, he's deciding to give it another go.

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Replied Feb 14 2020, 07:58
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

https://www.youtube.com/post/U...  Looks like Mr. Morris has flown into Texas and has a new gig. 

@James Wise

 lol 1st two comments are priceless.

 Anyone notice how young each and every person in the van is? Reminds me of those groups of young people recruited to go out and sell door to door.

I'd feel safer huffing people's coughs in Wuhan, China than working for Clayton Morris.

 Yea...people get suckered all the time by bad players. I mean, if you take an honest and comprehensive look at society and all the places where a racket exists and we all go along with it, it's pretty staggering really. Another view on that is it's good for the economy, a little destruction that is, inefficiency. And yet, we have more of everything everyday despite that. At least here in the US.

It's actually just a bit too easy. Finding a sucker to go along that is. They say there's one born everyday, I wonder if that might be more like one every minute, every second maybe?

I happen to think the reason is fear and pride. Fear of the truth. Fear of accepting what must be done in the light of the truth. Too prideful to admit we are gullible and stupid. Powerful emotions those are. And of course, in the end, we are all slaves to our stomach, the most powerful master we face in our time here. That tends to sway people away from doing "the right thing".

Everyday, day after day, there are new people coming on BP and wanting in this game. They have no idea why or how or what to do. They seek some dream, and their course is plotted in this direction. The tree of suckers is so ripe, so plentiful, so endless. How do you suppose all the Clayton Morris's of the world are ever going to be able to resist that? Think of a drug addict that might wake up in the morning and their favorite vice is waiting for them on their nightstand.

That picture says it all really. Every one of those people is beaming with joy and hope and excitement. My favorite is the blond girl at the back that is smiling and staring out the window as she dreams beyond the moment. Clayton will never run short of feeding his vice. (the blond girl in the front seat looks a lot like the gal from Cooks Country on PBS)

I love that you and Jay have taken on this battle. I suspect you both also understand exactly what I just said, and take the battle on anyways - I find that admirable. Ironically, I also think Clayton is right about you in a way, that the only thing you might accomplish with all of this is self-promotion. Maybe he's not so dumb after all, just an evil ****er. And maybe, just maybe, not even that.

But truly, is there anything wrong with making a buck while exploiting evil and steering people in a better direction? Not to me. I say bravo. I say what else can we do? We all have to eat, everyday.

There is an opportunity for firms like yours right now in this space. I've thought about entering it myself. Pretty much for all the same reasons. Opportunity, wealth, do-gooding. The only real difference between you or myself and Clayton is the last part of do-gooding. And maybe, just maybe, Clayton actually believes he is doing good for people. I mean, go back to the first thing I said, pride and fear. People lie to themselves all the time. People might even lie to themselves more than they lie to others. I'd say that makes a person more of a fool than evil. I won't be surprised if that's the defense if Clayton ever gets his day in court.

LOL - Someone should write a book on how to not get scammed. Heck, someone probably already has. I wonder how the sales of that book stack up to the sales of "get rich in a day in real estate".

My two cents? (well, three or four at this point) Just don't let this ****er consume you my friend.

And I'll leave this commentary with a final thought about our friend Clayton. A person need not serve others to make lots of money investing in real estate. In fact, most players serve only themselves. And yet, after failing at serving others in a grand way, Clayton has decided to pick up right where he left off and continue down that path anyways. To me, that says it all about the sort of person Clayton is. In some past Asian cultures, if you acted dishonorably, the only honorable thing to do would be commit suicide. I'm not saying I think Clayton should do that of course, I'm just pointing out that after failing others, instead of giving that up because he's clearly not qualified, he's deciding to give it another go.

I am not taking on the Battle.. just giving my personal opinions based on 4 decades of buying selling and brokering real estate and building new construction .. developing communities etc..  Jim is taking the fight to Morris with his investigative reporting. 

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Replied Feb 14 2020, 08:04
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

https://www.youtube.com/post/U...  Looks like Mr. Morris has flown into Texas and has a new gig. 

@James Wise

 lol 1st two comments are priceless.

 Anyone notice how young each and every person in the van is? Reminds me of those groups of young people recruited to go out and sell door to door.

I'd feel safer huffing people's coughs in Wuhan, China than working for Clayton Morris.

 Yea...people get suckered all the time by bad players. I mean, if you take an honest and comprehensive look at society and all the places where a racket exists and we all go along with it, it's pretty staggering really. Another view on that is it's good for the economy, a little destruction that is, inefficiency. And yet, we have more of everything everyday despite that. At least here in the US.

It's actually just a bit too easy. Finding a sucker to go along that is. They say there's one born everyday, I wonder if that might be more like one every minute, every second maybe?

I happen to think the reason is fear and pride. Fear of the truth. Fear of accepting what must be done in the light of the truth. Too prideful to admit we are gullible and stupid. Powerful emotions those are. And of course, in the end, we are all slaves to our stomach, the most powerful master we face in our time here. That tends to sway people away from doing "the right thing".

Everyday, day after day, there are new people coming on BP and wanting in this game. They have no idea why or how or what to do. They seek some dream, and their course is plotted in this direction. The tree of suckers is so ripe, so plentiful, so endless. How do you suppose all the Clayton Morris's of the world are ever going to be able to resist that? Think of a drug addict that might wake up in the morning and their favorite vice is waiting for them on their nightstand.

That picture says it all really. Every one of those people is beaming with joy and hope and excitement. My favorite is the blond girl at the back that is smiling and staring out the window as she dreams beyond the moment. Clayton will never run short of feeding his vice. (the blond girl in the front seat looks a lot like the gal from Cooks Country on PBS)

I love that you and Jay have taken on this battle. I suspect you both also understand exactly what I just said, and take the battle on anyways - I find that admirable. Ironically, I also think Clayton is right about you in a way, that the only thing you might accomplish with all of this is self-promotion. Maybe he's not so dumb after all, just an evil ****er. And maybe, just maybe, not even that.

But truly, is there anything wrong with making a buck while exploiting evil and steering people in a better direction? Not to me. I say bravo. I say what else can we do? We all have to eat, everyday.

There is an opportunity for firms like yours right now in this space. I've thought about entering it myself. Pretty much for all the same reasons. Opportunity, wealth, do-gooding. The only real difference between you or myself and Clayton is the last part of do-gooding. And maybe, just maybe, Clayton actually believes he is doing good for people. I mean, go back to the first thing I said, pride and fear. People lie to themselves all the time. People might even lie to themselves more than they lie to others. I'd say that makes a person more of a fool than evil. I won't be surprised if that's the defense if Clayton ever gets his day in court.

LOL - Someone should write a book on how to not get scammed. Heck, someone probably already has. I wonder how the sales of that book stack up to the sales of "get rich in a day in real estate".

My two cents? (well, three or four at this point) Just don't let this ****er consume you my friend.

And I'll leave this commentary with a final thought about our friend Clayton. A person need not serve others to make lots of money investing in real estate. In fact, most players serve only themselves. And yet, after failing at serving others in a grand way, Clayton has decided to pick up right where he left off and continue down that path anyways. To me, that says it all about the sort of person Clayton is. In some past Asian cultures, if you acted dishonorably, the only honorable thing to do would be commit suicide. I'm not saying I think Clayton should do that of course, I'm just pointing out that after failing others, instead of giving that up because he's clearly not qualified, he's deciding to give it another go.

I am not taking on the Battle.. just giving my personal opinions based on 4 decades of buying selling and brokering real estate and building new construction .. developing communities etc..  Jim is taking the fight to Morris with his investigative reporting. 

I know. And I (we all) love you for it. Which reminds me to send a check to your charity. I'll get my pen and checkbook out now before I forget again.

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Replied Feb 14 2020, 08:06
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

https://www.youtube.com/post/U...  Looks like Mr. Morris has flown into Texas and has a new gig. 

@James Wise

 lol 1st two comments are priceless.

 Anyone notice how young each and every person in the van is? Reminds me of those groups of young people recruited to go out and sell door to door.

I'd feel safer huffing people's coughs in Wuhan, China than working for Clayton Morris.

 Yea...people get suckered all the time by bad players. I mean, if you take an honest and comprehensive look at society and all the places where a racket exists and we all go along with it, it's pretty staggering really. Another view on that is it's good for the economy, a little destruction that is, inefficiency. And yet, we have more of everything everyday despite that. At least here in the US.

It's actually just a bit too easy. Finding a sucker to go along that is. They say there's one born everyday, I wonder if that might be more like one every minute, every second maybe?

I happen to think the reason is fear and pride. Fear of the truth. Fear of accepting what must be done in the light of the truth. Too prideful to admit we are gullible and stupid. Powerful emotions those are. And of course, in the end, we are all slaves to our stomach, the most powerful master we face in our time here. That tends to sway people away from doing "the right thing".

Everyday, day after day, there are new people coming on BP and wanting in this game. They have no idea why or how or what to do. They seek some dream, and their course is plotted in this direction. The tree of suckers is so ripe, so plentiful, so endless. How do you suppose all the Clayton Morris's of the world are ever going to be able to resist that? Think of a drug addict that might wake up in the morning and their favorite vice is waiting for them on their nightstand.

That picture says it all really. Every one of those people is beaming with joy and hope and excitement. My favorite is the blond girl at the back that is smiling and staring out the window as she dreams beyond the moment. Clayton will never run short of feeding his vice. (the blond girl in the front seat looks a lot like the gal from Cooks Country on PBS)

I love that you and Jay have taken on this battle. I suspect you both also understand exactly what I just said, and take the battle on anyways - I find that admirable. Ironically, I also think Clayton is right about you in a way, that the only thing you might accomplish with all of this is self-promotion. Maybe he's not so dumb after all, just an evil ****er. And maybe, just maybe, not even that.

But truly, is there anything wrong with making a buck while exploiting evil and steering people in a better direction? Not to me. I say bravo. I say what else can we do? We all have to eat, everyday.

There is an opportunity for firms like yours right now in this space. I've thought about entering it myself. Pretty much for all the same reasons. Opportunity, wealth, do-gooding. The only real difference between you or myself and Clayton is the last part of do-gooding. And maybe, just maybe, Clayton actually believes he is doing good for people. I mean, go back to the first thing I said, pride and fear. People lie to themselves all the time. People might even lie to themselves more than they lie to others. I'd say that makes a person more of a fool than evil. I won't be surprised if that's the defense if Clayton ever gets his day in court.

LOL - Someone should write a book on how to not get scammed. Heck, someone probably already has. I wonder how the sales of that book stack up to the sales of "get rich in a day in real estate".

My two cents? (well, three or four at this point) Just don't let this ****er consume you my friend.

And I'll leave this commentary with a final thought about our friend Clayton. A person need not serve others to make lots of money investing in real estate. In fact, most players serve only themselves. And yet, after failing at serving others in a grand way, Clayton has decided to pick up right where he left off and continue down that path anyways. To me, that says it all about the sort of person Clayton is. In some past Asian cultures, if you acted dishonorably, the only honorable thing to do would be commit suicide. I'm not saying I think Clayton should do that of course, I'm just pointing out that after failing others, instead of giving that up because he's clearly not qualified, he's deciding to give it another go.

I am not taking on the Battle.. just giving my personal opinions based on 4 decades of buying selling and brokering real estate and building new construction .. developing communities etc..  Jim is taking the fight to Morris with his investigative reporting. 

I know. And I (we all) love you for it. Which reminds me to send a check to your charity. I'll get my pen and checkbook out now before I forget again.

deeply appreciate any donations..  U can make them on line with pay pal !!!  the more I look at that photo in the van it does not seem real IE those are real investors.. I have been on many a bus tour with operators and that is not the normal demographic.