Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 54%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$69 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Take Your Forum Experience
to the Next Level
Create a free account and join over 3 million investors sharing
their journeys and helping each other succeed.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
Already a member?  Login here
Buying & Selling Real Estate
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated almost 8 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

66
Posts
24
Votes
Jason A.
  • Investor
  • New York
24
Votes |
66
Posts

In negotiations on the following deal – appreciate thoughts

Jason A.
  • Investor
  • New York
Posted

Hi all – would appreciate thoughts on the following deal:

  • Three family for sale in decent neighborhood
  • Siding, windows and roof all replaced in the last 8 years.
  • Some challenges:
  • Substantial deferred maintenance on the interior – needs two gut reno bathrooms in short order (would likely aim to do so at next vacancy). Rest is simple stuff: paint, rugs. Kitchens are OK.

    o Front yard looks like a war zone – needs new yard and flower beds.

    o Two of the three units share a water heater and oil heat… so landlord has done a “rent included” deal and covers nat gas and oil for these two units. This means I’d be exposed to the price fluctuations of these commodities and tenants with no incentive to conserve. Not ideal obviously. (All electric is individually metered).

  • Some of the positive considerations:
  • o I would do much of the renovations and improvements myself

    o The basement is a walkout and can be finished into additional living space – so additional bedrooms would work. Have spoken with municipality, the basement cannot be turned into a 4th unit unfortunately.

    o The biggest deferred maintenance are the bathrooms – so while a major cost, something I could absorb.

    o Depending on cost (which I have no experience estimating but am working on) I could segregate the nat gas an oil for the two units which, over time, could pay off with each tenant covering their respective usage.

  • Price: $250K
  • Gross rents are $3,300
  • Expenses are $1600/ month (very conservative, includes $420 in utilities which are covered for two of the three units as mentioned above).
  • Factor in another ~$300 per month for vacancy (9%) and NOI is ~$1400/ month $16,800/ year.
  • Cap rate is approx 6.5.
  • Appreciate any thoughts. All the properties I own thus far have been out of state or new construction – so this would be a hands on project / new thing for me. 

    Loading replies...