Housing could be overvalued by 10% to 35% based on how investors are acting

Housing could be overvalued by 10% to 35% based on how investors are acting

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Wall Street Thinks U.S. Homes Are Overpriced

Housing could be overvalued by anywhere from 10% to 35% based on how investors are acting

The stock market is pricing portfolios of American homes at a hefty discount to what houses are changing hands for in the open market. Shares of single-family landlords Invitation Homes INVH -1.26%decrease; red down pointing triangle and American Homes 4 Rent AMH -1.65% decrease; are trading at 35% and 20% discounts to their net asset values, respectively, according to real-estate analytics firm Green Street. 

Invitation Homes’ stock has traded at a particularly large discount 

to NAV since interest rates began to rise in early 2022, but the gap has widened by 10 percentage points in the past year.


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The basic idea is that of you can make the same return on Treasuries with little to no risk, there is no incentive to buy real state.

Some very large Hedge Funds are selling inventory at a loss, below what "current market" is. This of course pushes "comps" lower and affects the selling price lower of anybody trying to sell. Or, the house just sits longer and gets passed over by those buyers that are still in the market.

And no, it doesn't matter that prices are up 2.8% if you can't find comps to support that asking price. 

Don't chase the market to the bottom.

And 

Check current comps before you make that offer and close on that new purchase.

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    Quote from @Ken M.:

    Wall Street Thinks U.S. Homes Are Overpriced

    Housing could be overvalued by anywhere from 10% to 35% based on how investors are acting

    The stock market is pricing portfolios of American homes at a hefty discount to what houses are changing hands for in the open market. Shares of single-family landlords Invitation Homes INVH -1.26%decrease; red down pointing triangle and American Homes 4 Rent AMH -1.65% decrease; are trading at 35% and 20% discounts to their net asset values, respectively, according to real-estate analytics firm Green Street. 

    Invitation Homes’ stock has traded at a particularly large discount 

    to NAV since interest rates began to rise in early 2022, but the gap has widened by 10 percentage points in the past year.


    ********************************

    The basic idea is that of you can make the same return on Treasuries with little to no risk, there is no incentive to buy real state.

    Some very large Hedge Funds are selling inventory at a loss, below what "current market" is. This of course pushes "comps" lower and affects the selling price lower of anybody trying to sell. Or, the house just sits longer and gets passed over by those buyers that are still in the market.

    And no, it doesn't matter that prices are up 2.8% if you can't find comps to support that asking price. 

    Don't chase the market to the bottom.

    And 

    Check current comps before you make that offer and close on that new purchase.


     I agree that homes are overvalued anywhere between 10%+. What I do think and this is just my 2 cent opinion is I do not think we will see steep drops, I think we will see some softening in areas over the next few years where we do not get appreciation - which with inflation still going strong will essentially lead to pricing staying the same / lowering slightly between now and 2027ish which with cost of dollar not going as far will be essentially the same as salaries etc. catching up to home prices.

    Hope that makes sense. 

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    Quote from @Chris Seveney:
    Quote from @Ken M.:

    Wall Street Thinks U.S. Homes Are Overpriced

    Housing could be overvalued by anywhere from 10% to 35% based on how investors are acting

    The stock market is pricing portfolios of American homes at a hefty discount to what houses are changing hands for in the open market. Shares of single-family landlords Invitation Homes INVH -1.26%decrease; red down pointing triangle and American Homes 4 Rent AMH -1.65% decrease; are trading at 35% and 20% discounts to their net asset values, respectively, according to real-estate analytics firm Green Street. 

    Invitation Homes’ stock has traded at a particularly large discount 

    to NAV since interest rates began to rise in early 2022, but the gap has widened by 10 percentage points in the past year.


    ********************************

    The basic idea is that of you can make the same return on Treasuries with little to no risk, there is no incentive to buy real state.

    Some very large Hedge Funds are selling inventory at a loss, below what "current market" is. This of course pushes "comps" lower and affects the selling price lower of anybody trying to sell. Or, the house just sits longer and gets passed over by those buyers that are still in the market.

    And no, it doesn't matter that prices are up 2.8% if you can't find comps to support that asking price. 

    Don't chase the market to the bottom.

    And 

    Check current comps before you make that offer and close on that new purchase.


     I agree that homes are overvalued anywhere between 10%+. What I do think and this is just my 2 cent opinion is I do not think we will see steep drops, I think we will see some softening in areas over the next few years where we do not get appreciation - which with inflation still going strong will essentially lead to pricing staying the same / lowering slightly between now and 2027ish which with cost of dollar not going as far will be essentially the same as salaries etc. catching up to home prices.

    Hope that makes sense. 

    I don't expect steep drops either. If someone is relatively happy where the are, the low interest rate they currently have will keep them tied to the property. In any market, there are those whose situation forces them to make changes and they will bite the bullet and sell.

    I don't expect interest rates will change much unless they get rid of the Fed, which I don't expect to happen. But, insurance costs are likely to rise, making getting mortgages for most people even harder to get.

    What is likely to happen is more creative financing going forward, private lending to increase and smaller houses being built in the future.
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