Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 54%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$69 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Take Your Forum Experience
to the Next Level
Create a free account and join over 3 million investors sharing
their journeys and helping each other succeed.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
Already a member?  Login here
Buying & Selling Real Estate
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated almost 11 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

149
Posts
57
Votes
Steve Smithy
  • Boston, MA
57
Votes |
149
Posts

Debating on selling my 4plexes

Steve Smithy
  • Boston, MA
Posted

I have 3 fantastic 4plexes, when I purchased them the ROI was well above the normal 1% rule, and they still make decent money today. I am thinking of selling them because I haven't focused on finding good property managers and staying on top of them. So the property managers don't seem to be putting good tenants in and then the turnover is higher, repairs are higher, their placement fees are higher, etc. I am sure if I spent more time focusing on them I could do better, but if I spent that same time on another venture I am sure it would pay more in the long run.

I was thinking I could just sell and stop worrying about them, and invest the money in something else. But I don't have a better idea to invest in, other than just "the stock market". I was really into it when I first bought them and thought I would keep buying more, but now I lost the interest.

I chose 4plexes because of volumes of scale (1 tenant turnover doesn't mean I am losing money that month), mortgage implications (easier to just get a personal mortgage, with 5unit and up you need commercial mortgage), and I thought it would be easier to manage.

2 of the 4plexes are in Indiana and 1 is in Pennsylvania. I am near Boston.

What would you do?

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

225
Posts
91
Votes
Mark Whittlesey
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Encinitas, CA
91
Votes |
225
Posts
Mark Whittlesey
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Encinitas, CA
Replied

For buy and hold management is absolutely key.

And even more so for multis. Even small multis like 4-plex.

The vast majority of "professional" managers I have run into are bad. REALLY bad.

The one thing you cannot do is maintain status quo. You either need to find really good managers and then manager the managers. Or you need to sell.

That is really a lifestyle/personal decision, not an investment decision.

It sounds like management is the vast majority of the problem. If it were me, I would fix that problem.

The other thing to keep in mind is that even with small multis, cash flow does matter in terms of valuation. So with all your management problems, you may not get top dollar if you sell without fixing that.

Loading replies...