Tapping Into House Hacking Benefits By Helping My Sister

Tapping Into House Hacking Benefits By Helping My Sister

Investor · Saratoga Springs, UT · Member since 2018 · 61 posts · 37 votes

Hello Everyone, 

My Sister Just got married and with high interest rates, and high cost of homes in Utah, it’s going to be really hard for her and her family to afford buying a home. Rentals are also hard because they are so expensive . I have spoken to her at length about house hacking. And I got an idea that could help her get into a house but could also help me continue growing my investment portfolio. I just don’t know if it is possible or legal. So I would like your advice.

My idea:

My sister and I would build a fourplex together and finance it as owner occupied. Her and her husband would live in one unit and the other three units would be rented out. 

I would put all the money for the down payment and closing costs. We would both be on the loan. However, since I put all the money down, we would also come up with an agreement that I own the three rented units and she owns the unit she lives in. Her mortgage would be equal to 1/4 of the mortgage and then I would rent the other units to cover the other expenses and my 3/4 portion of the mortgage. Eventually, once the units have appreciated a bit and the mortgage has been paid down to the point we have 20% equity, we split the parcels into individual town homes and then she refinances her unit out and I refinance the three units out or sell them. 

Benefits for my sister:

- She gets into home ownership without any cash up front because I paid all the money down.

- She starts building equity on her unit rather than renting. 

Benefits for me:

- Buy 3 units with only 5% money down.

Question I have?

- Is this even possible and legal? 

- What are the down sides? 

- Have you heard of this being done before? 

Best, 

Mario Cuartas







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AJ WongBusiness Member
Real Estate Broker · Oregon & California Coast · Member since 2022 · 834 posts · 696 votes
2y

HI Mario. Very kind of you to consider investing with your family and very possible for you to be the co-signor on a property for your sister's family. My sister co-signed for me on a primary in 2019. Would definitely want a strong private agreement but all parties could remain on title with allocations. An FHA loan or conventional would be a good loan product and can use the existing rents to help qualify. Gifted down payment funds are generally allowed. Connect with @Joseph Chiofalo for help with structuring and investor focused mortgages. 

Good luck! 

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  • AJ WongBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Oregon & California Coast · Member since 2022 · 834 posts · 696 votes
    2y

    HI Mario. Very kind of you to consider investing with your family and very possible for you to be the co-signor on a property for your sister's family. My sister co-signed for me on a primary in 2019. Would definitely want a strong private agreement but all parties could remain on title with allocations. An FHA loan or conventional would be a good loan product and can use the existing rents to help qualify. Gifted down payment funds are generally allowed. Connect with @Joseph Chiofalo for help with structuring and investor focused mortgages. 

    Good luck! 

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  • Investor · Saratoga Springs, UT · Member since 2018 · 61 posts · 37 votes
    2y

    @AJ Wong Thank you for the quick reply. That is very helpful and makes sense. Thanks for the referral to Joseph. I will reach out. 

  • Lender · AZ · Member since 2022 · 148 posts · 95 votes
    2y

    Hey @Mario Cuartas glad you and your family are thinking creatively, that is definitely what it takes in this market to be successful.

    Unfortunately from my knowledge, this idea is much, much more difficult than you anticipate. Yes it is possible, however with construction loans (2 time or one time close) I believe most of those products have a 10% down payment requirement. Plus with the prices of land and construction nowadays you would likely be in jumbo loan territory, meaning higher rates, and down payment requirements. Not only that, but you'll have to also pay interest only payments on the loan while the property is being built as well. So maybe a few thousand dollars a month before it's even built. 

    Once again I'm not saying this is impossible, but to actually complete this you will likely need way more cash than you think. If you have that much cash it would actually be more efficient to purchase a pre-existing fourplex, put the 5% down and get some concessions to buy down your rate.

    Hopefully that all made sense. I've house hacked in Utah 3 times now, and I've got a pretty good mortgage broker who can talk you through the financing if you want more clarity as well.

  • Theresa HarrisPro Member
    Member since 2019 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    2y

    Legally what you propose should be feasible (I am not a lawyer).  Make sure you have paperwork drawn to reflect that you are 75% owner and she is 25% and who pays for what.  talk to a few banks to find out how loans work and what the costs are, then if those numbers work a few builders to find out timelines.

  • Banker · Henderson, NV · Member since 2023 · 317 posts · 74 votes
    2y

    Hi Mario, 

    Many of my clients have helped their family members just as you are looking to do here.  

    You can certainly join her on the loan as a non-occupying co-borrower.  You both would be on title to the property. 

    Do you own the land or would need financing for the land and construction? 

  • Broker · Logan, UT · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    Just ask a lender if you can do the project as tenants in common with 3/4 and 1/4 ownership with you being a non-occupant co-borrower as @Joseph Chiofalo suggests.  If you can only be 50% you'll have to secure your additional 1/4 some other way (and there are lots of ways).

    The only problem I see with your plan is the condo conversion.  Condo conversions are bureaucratically intensive and usually not worth it for 4-Plexes.  On top of it, reaching 20% down through principal reduction and appreciation could be a decade out.

    So you should probably look at the project as a long-term partnership with you co-owning this with your sister for the foreseeable future.

    But these are great opportunities.  Parents do it with their kids all the time.  Just start by talking to a lender about the various ways you could approach it.

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