Building seed money with primary house

Building seed money with primary house

Buena Park, CA · Member since 2013 · 2 posts · 0 votes

I'm looking to sell my house and luck would have it that after being here for 3 years and the rehab I'm doing after I read and learned about some stuff, I should make enough profit for me to pay off almost 75% of all my debt (like 150k in student loans!). I can actually pay off about 85-90% actually from the profit of our house (one and only, primary residence) but that leaves no money to roll into another house for a downpayment.
Now student loan rates are higher than mortgage interest rates though so I'm thinking of a few possibilities but anyone here who has had experience getting into the flipping business with very little seed money and used the "step up" method, would love to hear from you. Could be common sense stuff but I'm still learning and open to being educated.

Being that I reside in southern CA the prices are very steep. So capital requirements are much higher here. Can't even get a starter home at under $250 unless it's inland.
The plan is to rehab my current home and sell it within 6 months. I took out a HELOC for this given that my debt is already high with loans. It was necessary even though the risk is there, there are repairs and rehabs that have to be done and if they are done, I can have enough equity from the sale to pay off a large chunk of the debt.
I left myself about $30,000 to put into a downpayment on another house (the one we will move to). I'm not sure if I need it all and if I don't then that'll be okay. If i end up getting a 203k or FHA loan then the rest of the funds will be available for something else.
Well, if I use all $30k to buy a home to move into, that leaves no real opportunity for investment. I would have to find a home that's suitable to live in for 2 years so I don't pay the capital gains tax and during my residence, I would rehab and sell it at a profit. Basically live there and flip it. This is obviously slow, the market is bound to change in 2 years and not doesn't seem very optimal for money making. For owning and home and comfort with a little bonus cash, sure.

Or I can try to get a FHA loan and use a small portion of the $30k to buy a home I will live in and fix up (same as scenario above) but also use the rest of the capital to buy a second home for investment purposes calculating holding, closing costs, etc. and trying to flip within 6 months or less. Problem with this is I would need to get a second FHA 203k rehab loan due to not having enough capital for the rehabs. There would be no HELOC to pull and credit card interest rates are insane. Not sure if I can even get (2) TWO FHA rehab 203k loans at the same time.

Which brings me to my third option: Rent a home. I won't own property and nothing I'm paying pays towards principal for anything but it will allow monthly mortgage payments to be cheaper, no prop tax or anything else associated with home ownership, will allow me to take a FHA 203k rehab loan (or even a conventional) and allow me to use that $30k for investment on the house I buy while I pay rent to someone else. Basically do this until I can roll the profits and save up about $100k. Then I can look into buying a home should I want my own property and also have enough cash to invest and flip at the same time.

The hardest part for someone like me is that without enough capital to buy my own house AND another investment house, it's almost impossible. Financing poses just as much difficulty esp because it all comes down to capital when you factor in holding costs, down payment, etc.

Are there any other options that I can consider to invest and flip properties with such limited cash?

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  • New York City, NY · Member since 2012 · 253 posts · 7 votes
    13y

    Is renting out the house you want to sell on the table? Have you calculated how much cash the property can generate as a rental? I would think in a nice area it can yield hundreds a month in cash flow. Its just an idea and looking forward to seeing what others have to say about the subject.

  • Buena Park, CA · Member since 2013 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    13y

    Hmm I'm not sure. It's on the table but I have yet to calculate the rentals around here. Assuming it does provide cash flow, I still need capital to buy additional property and having 1 house where I live (either bought or rented) and another house being tied up bringing in cash flow (while good) leaves me no way of stepping up my capital so I can scale my investments. I mean if the cash flow was really good I could just sit on it and wait a few months or years and save up that money to reinvest but I'm trying to figure out how I can flip and snowball the money.

    I did this on craigslist and went from $200 to about $3500-4000. It wasn't a business thing it was just for fun. I bought and sold a bunch of stuff like computers, speakers, niche hobby rc cars and helicopters, etc. and that experience showed me how to price and value things that you have never had any exposure to. And buying undervalued and sell a little below market price allows a fast increase in cash. But I found even when I was flipping macbooks, you need a computer to sell computers! So I had to buy one and have enough capital to buy another as an "investment". Buying and flipping your own residence or your own computer that you need was/is very inefficient.

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