Starting Out in Virginia Beach

Starting Out in Virginia Beach

Virginia Beach · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 0 votes

Good Evening Bigger Pockets Community,

Active duty USMC and I will be moving to the Virginia Beach area either Dec 2019 or Jan 2020 on PCS orders. Looking to begin house hacking when I move out there. I have been doing some research on homes out there and have some interesting finds that require some advice. **These finding are based on my budget.

I've noticed there are a lot of condos in the immediate coastal area of Virginia Beach (nearest to the boardwalk, etc). Of course most of these condos have high HOA fees (ranging from $200-$600!). Most of these are 2bd and either 1/2ba. The further inland I go, the bigger the homes get and I've seen lower HOA dues. These will be 3bd and 2ba mostly. This will put me 7 miles from work and a 10-15 min drive. Usually 1 mile or less from the beach.

I've also looked into the multifamily homes. Most of these are located in the Norfolk area and are duplexes. This will put me ~25-30 miles from work depending on the route and around 40min-60min+ driving depending on traffic. Most of these homes are also in need of more work and in higher crime areas.

**Note: I will be living in this property. So wherever I end up going, I will be a resident in that property.

Two courses of actions being considered:

1. Considering buying a home more in the VA Beach area, and renting/Airbnb the extra rooms. I imagine the location will bring in a desire for vacationers and travelers alike which would be more income than a standard renter would provide. I understand this mostly falls under the summer desirable months and my winters would be harder to fill. Depending on location, prices are ~$200,000-$230,000.

2. Buy a duplex in Norfolk. I live with one other in the other unit, and see where that takes me. Good if I get a consistent tenant but I imagine Airbnb and trying to get capitalize on profitable parts of the year and filling an occupancy with the Airbnb route would be difficult. Depending on location and how fixed up some of these are, they're usually $150,000-$200,000. 


Looking for some insight from experienced members. Also, anyone that may have some experience in this area and are familiar with this market would be even better! Anything I've overlooked I'm more than willing to listen and learn. 


Thank you all!

-Dave

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Patti RobertsonBusiness Member
Property Manager · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
6y

I agree with @Kevin Sack. I live in a beach front community and have a neighbor who got hurt and had to stop working. She decided to “house hack” and had success house hacking with some military members.  Both roommates left at the beginning of summer so she tried short term rental this past summer.  I was shocked at how little she got per night being walking distance to the Chesapeake Bay and 4 restaurant/bars, and having a salt-water pool on the property.  She brought in about the same with short term rentals as she did renting two rooms, but with a lot more work. 

In case you don't know, the VA is lifting the cap in 2020, so there will be no limit on the amount you can finance, as long as it is 4 units or less and appraises. Why not look for a 4 plex?

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  • Rental Property Investor · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2016 · 22 posts · 33 votes
    6y

    Hey Dave! 

    I am a real estate agent and investor in the area. Also an active duty spouse and Airbnb expert/ manager! I would be happy to chat with you about the different options for Airbnb in our area, there are some regulations you will want to keep in mind as you’re looking. Feel free to send me a DM. I think you’re going to love it here! There are a lot of great meetups in town, the investor community is very supportive and helpful here. 

  • Virginia Beach · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    Thank you for the quick response Sierra! Messaging! 

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2018 · 95 posts · 65 votes
    6y

    I am in the area and have been for seven years now and know the market pretty well. If you would like to continue the conversation feel free to message me. 

  • Investor · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2017 · 17 posts · 2 votes
    6y

    Hi David,

    Welcome to the area! I'm a real estate agent and Invistor and work with lots of investors in the area. Our market here is very hot and i think if you get the right deal you going to make really good profit. Giving the fact that you will use a VA loan so you need to be owner occupied. I don't think Condos with high fees is your best option as you will find yourself wasting income within those fees.also try to avoid flood zones as some of them have really high flood insurance. Not all areas are airbnb regulated. Feel free to DM me and we can chat about your best option that nets you more income.
    thanks and good luck! 

    Amira Manley  

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2018 · 207 posts · 225 votes
    6y

    Here is a link regarding some changes to AirBNB in VA Beach. VA Beach is the California of Virginia in a lot of ways. I would aim for a gentrifying area of Norfolk, or one of the surrounding communities (Suffolk/Chesapeake) with a focus on reducing traffic for the sake of my own sanity. Will you be at Oceana?

  • Virginia Beach · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    Messaged all! 

    @JM Payne I'll definitely look into that. Seems like I'm receiving a lot of recommendation towards that way. I'll be at Fort Story actually

  • Real Estate Consultant · Norfolk, VA · Member since 2017 · 342 posts · 200 votes
    6y

    @David Lucas Should you decide to settle in Norfolk and do Airbnb, here's the link for the short-term rentals process in the city. Good luck and thank you for your service!

  • Virginia Beach · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    @Dan V. Thank you for the heads up! I'll definitely keep that in consideration

  • Rental Property Investor · Clovis, NM · Member since 2018 · 118 posts · 55 votes
    6y

    You need to decide if you want to go the duplex route and rent the other side. Duplex route will give you some privacy and will about cover your PITI costs. If you go the single family route and rent rooms, you might be able to come out a little ahead depending on the size and location of the house. If it were me, I'd go the duplex route and move every year or two to continue to grow the portfolio. For the market itself, I personally think it is over-priced for the average buy and hold investor.

  • Patti RobertsonBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Virginia Beach, VA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    I agree with @Kevin Sack. I live in a beach front community and have a neighbor who got hurt and had to stop working. She decided to “house hack” and had success house hacking with some military members.  Both roommates left at the beginning of summer so she tried short term rental this past summer.  I was shocked at how little she got per night being walking distance to the Chesapeake Bay and 4 restaurant/bars, and having a salt-water pool on the property.  She brought in about the same with short term rentals as she did renting two rooms, but with a lot more work. 

    In case you don't know, the VA is lifting the cap in 2020, so there will be no limit on the amount you can finance, as long as it is 4 units or less and appraises. Why not look for a 4 plex?

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