South Carolina Taxes on Non owner occupied rentals

South Carolina Taxes on Non owner occupied rentals

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I am new to the BP website and real estate investment community in general. I live in South Carolina, own my first home (3 years into a 30 yr mortgage), full time firefighter, debt free (except for mortgage), and have a Dave Ramsey approved emergency savings and reg contributions to a Roth IRA. I have spent every free moment over the past few months studying real estate investment, primarily rentals, and fear that I am entering the paralysis by analysis stage. Today I spent time using the BRRR calculator to analyze a few properties and even with locations in not so great areas where I "estimated" bottom dollar expenses and great deals, the 6% tax that will hit with the second (and third, forth, etc) property seems to kill the estimated cash flow. I should mention I am using the low and no money down creative financing approach, and I still seem to hit a negative or WAY below 12% return. I truly want to take action, but this has me dumbfounded on how to create a positive cash flow in the SC area. I am not opposed to long distance investing, but I'm trying to follow the recommendations of all the BP books and articles of starting in my area (born and raised here as well) because of my local knowledge of the area. Does anyone have any advice on getting started in this area (Charleston)? Or am I stuck with saving on my lucrative government salary (sarcasm) a 20-30% down payment in order to create a buffer for positive cash flow upon renting? I am not opposed to other real estate investment vehicles, I have just mainly studied rentals as I appreciate the long term benefits of this strategy. I understand saving for a goal, just concerned that the time it will take and inaction during the saving process will contribute to cold feet. I want to take action!! Thank you in advance for any guidance, and sorry if I just dropped WAY too much info too quickly.

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  • Charleston, SC · Member since 2018 · 182 posts · 73 votes
    7y
    Hey, you mentioned you were using the calculators...would you be able to share your numbers? It is hard to give good specific advice without being able to verify that your purchase price looks good, repairs estimate is accurate, and ARV or rental amounts are reasonable.
  • Investor · Chesterfield, SC · Member since 2016 · 38 posts · 8 votes
    7y

    Sometimes you need to find the price the properties work at. But I would have to look at the numbers as well to give more advice. I usually figure out where I need to purchase a buy and hold to see if it's even possible for what is being asked.

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    Rental Property Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2012 · 161 posts · 75 votes
    7y

    I have been investing in the Upstate area (Greer / Greenville) for 20 years now. It is more difficult for us to find deals that fit our model than it has ever been. We are finding that most properties that fit our criteria and are listed on the MLS will have 10-20 flippers who will drive the price well above asking. It has forced us to be a lot more creative with how we search for deals, be more willing to rehab properties that scare others away, move outside of prime areas, and yes tighten our cash flow on buy and holds.

  • Real Estate Investor · Milford, PA · Member since 2014 · 395 posts · 299 votes
    7y

    @David Bailey

    I look at it slightly different. The 6% base on sales price tells you exactly (or pretty dam close) what your taxes will be. It makes underwriting them easy. 

    It's not you or your underwriting. Deals are just plain hard to find in this market. Start thinking about how you can better source deals. Are you getting them from the MLS or direct from the seller completely off market.

    You are taking massive action underwriting deals. Just keep at it. You will come across one that works. Patience and persistence is the name of the game.  Establish your criteria now when emotion is not part of it.  DO NOT CHANGE YOUR CRITERIA in the middle of looking at a deal.  There is a reason the criteria is made now, no emotion. You can re-evaluate it from time to time but never to get a deal to work, that' how you get into trouble. 

    There is no inaction while you save. As you save it's when you work on your network. Contractors, Financing, other investors, brokers, etc.  You are doing all the right things.  What you need to do now is stay consistent and persistent.   

  • Investor · Powdersville, SC · Member since 2017 · 6 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    David,

    I am an upstate investor and look for and evaluate deals consistently. I have 3 properties in the upstate and understand your plight. I purchased my first is 2010, second in 2012 both, below market value. I could not pull the trigger again until this summer and then only because my daughter attends USC and it is cheaper to purchase off campus housing rather than pay for on campus housing. In all cases I had to add value with sweat equity. We hear all the time that we need to exploit our unfair advantage. You need to find out your advantage and use it. Are you a handy person, have marketing savvy, awash with family money or something else?  A partnership with another or others that have skill sets you do not posses will allow for growth and experience to build during this high valuation market with out much risk so when things change you will be ready . I wish you luck!

  • Wholesaler · Easley, SC · Member since 2010 · 340 posts · 249 votes
    7y

    @David Bailey  How are you calculating the 6% tax?  It's not as straightforward as it may seem.  The county has a good calculator to help you get a more accurate number.

    https://www.greenvillecounty.org/appsas400/RealPro...

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