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Andrew Magoun
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Building my spreadsheet - what am I missing?

Andrew Magoun
  • Investor
  • Yarmouth, ME
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I'm in the Portland, Maine area and trying to build out my spreadsheet for running numbers on buy and hold multi families (4 units or less). I looked around BP a little, found @Brandon Turner's investment calculator and used that as a jumping off point for running the numbers to see if a deal cash flows or not. I think I have just about everything captured, but being new at this I'm not sure and am looking for some feedback.

For expenses, I have the following broken down by month:

  • Insurance
  • Mortgage
  • Accountant fees (for taxes)
  • Cap ex (5% of monthly rents)
  • Electricity (tenants mostly pay, but if there's a vacancy I pay during that time - I've budgeted $240 a unit per year, being really conservative)
  • Specific fees to the town I'm looking in (storm water, unit registration, etc.)
  • Landscaping
  • Legal (trying to go with the "family office" that reviews leases, management agreements, etc. to make sure everything is up-to-date)
  • Maintenance (electrical and plumbing - have this as 3% of gross monthly rents)
  • Management fee (10%)
  • Propane/heating oil (tenant pays primarily, but if there's a vacancy in the winter...)
  • Property tax
  • Snow removal/shoveling
  • Vacancy rate (5%)
  • Water

I'd really appreciate thoughts on what I may be missing and whether I'm not budgeting enough for expenses like maintenance or cap ex. Thanks in advance!

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Tammy Richards
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Tammy Richards
  • Yarmouth, ME
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@Andrew Magoun, -take these thoughts with a grain of salt, I've only owned two multi units so far:

You may also want to increase your maintenance/repair percentage, depending on the age/condition of the property you purchase.  I see you are limiting it to plumbing/electrical - even if you do your own repairs, an older building, or a poorly maintained building may increase that.  I use 10% of the gross monthly rent (but it is an older building)

And 5% for CapEx - that's one number I don't use a percentage for. I have been influenced by @Ben Leybovich on this:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2015/03/0...

I use $250 per month. If you use 5% for a building that pulls income of $20,000 per year, that could be too low - only $1000 per year in that case. I use $250 per month minimum, which is 30,000 over ten years, because I know that one blown heating unit, a foundation leak, a new roof, or new egress windows to meet code will eat up the CapEx even for a small multi-unit.

It's great you are running numbers.  Run run run them, analyze a boatload of properties.  By doing this over a few months, I got much faster at saying "nope" to a lot of properties... it helped me narrow my criteria considerably.

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