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Craig Hanlon
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CASHFLOW VS EQUITY

Craig Hanlon
  • Newburgh, NY
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If your purchase earned you 20-30k In equity. Would you still consider purchase with a 6 percent return cash on cash. would be buy and hold property. just starting out here and not too much experience figuring out the number's. Many variables to consider Down payment amount. Length of loan. Interest rate. Taxes. Maybe just hold a couple of years? 

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Eric Fernwood
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Eric Fernwood
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@Craig Hanlon

@Jay Hinrichs

I agree with Jay, equity is at best, unrealized gain. Plus, if you were to sell a property, the transaction cost is likely to be in the 6% to 8% range.

On buying a property for $150,000 which needs $20,000 in materials + labor, it may not be as good a deal as you might think. Below is a comparison between buying a property for $150,000 + $20,000 in materials if all your labor is "free" and it takes you 3 months to get it market ready. Also, I will assume that you can rent the property immediately (zero days) once the work is complete. I will also assume a 2% property tax rate and $1,000/Yr. landlord insurance and $150/Mo. in utilities (I needed some numbers so I pulled these out of thin air).

Scenario 1: $150,000 plus $20,000 and three months to make it market ready assuming 20% down, 4% interest rate, 30 year fixed.

Remember that it will take you 3 months to make it market ready so you will lose 3 months of rent in this scenario.

Scenario 2: $200,000 and ready to rent immediately with financing terms as shown above.

The above is an over simplification in many ways but I believe the basic concept is correct. From the above numbers, you may be better off buying a property in better condition for more. You will have some advantage in that your monthly debt service will be lower in Scenario 1 but the time to recover the difference is estimated as follows:

Payment Savings

Cost to Market Ready

Rent loss while making the property market ready: $1000x3=$3000

Rental Period to recover additional cost if the rent is $1000/Mo.:

Recovery Period (Mo.) = (10000+3000) / 191 = 68 Mo. or 5.6 Yrs.

In summary, when you are comparing buying a property that needs a lot of rehab, you have to consider the total costs involved when compared to buying a property in better condition. In Las Vegas, we typically reject any property that requires more than $5,000 in rehab unless there are special circumstances.

On buying properties for future gain (equity), I created a cartoon that I send to clients considering this path.

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