College student/aspiring real estate investor seeking guidance

College student/aspiring real estate investor seeking guidance

Investor · Shakopee, MN · Member since 2015 · 4 posts · 0 votes

Hello BP community,

For starters, I'm extremely new to the world of real estate. Currently I'm in the process of reading books/forum discussion posts, so any book recommendations or suggestions on  particularly helpful threads to read would be much appreciated.

First off, I'm a college student in Minneapolis with 1-2 years left of my undergraduate degree remaining. for 2015-2016 I will be living in a house near the university, but once my lease is up, my mom plans on helping me to finance my own place (apartment or small house). 

My mom is actually interested in real estate too, and lately we have been talking at length about making our endeavors profitable. She lives in Michigan and will likely be putting up the majority of the capital on the property to help me get started. We've talked about investing in a small house or apartment and potentially renting it out to generate some cash flow (easy to find tenants as a university student, I'm very comfortable with roommates). In my mind, the help from my mom is a powerful asset that we can both use to get our feet wet with real estate. 

With all this in mind, I have two main questions. 

1. What would be a wise plan of attack as for acquiring a cash flow property in order to invest the returns on future rentals?

2. What does a typical property acquisition look like from idea to transaction? Meaning what are the major steps (searching for the property, evaluating whether or not it is a bargain, legal stuff, finding tenants, drawing up contracts, etc; remember, I'm brand new and basically know nothing) to making this all happen?

Thank you for your patience,

Joel

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Flipper/Rehabber · Clinton Township, MI · Member since 2014 · 71 posts · 12 votes
11y

Hi @Joel Strehl

Welcome to the community. I think the advice @Josh Mitchell gave above is a great idea. I wish I would have bought a house in college and rented out the other rooms. Would have been a great learning experience. Not to mention you can get good rates with conventional or FHA loans with a lot less down than bank financing for investment properties.

One book I just finished reading was the Book on Investing in Real Estate with No (and low) Money Down by @Brandon Turner, it was awesome with a lot of good info that you can probably use for your current situation. 

For searching for the property, my advice would be to find a Realtor in the area and start looking on Craigslist at FSBOs. You can probably find a good realtor that works with investors at a local real estate investing association meeting.  

And the main thing for rentals is cash flow. So based on sale prices of properties in the area, calculate how much your monthly payment would be with your loan, figure out what kind of rents you could charge per room based on other rentals in the area, and see what kind of return you could get. (And I would factor in some expenses in your calculation like maintenance, etc). Even if it's just living for free for now, that'll help by keeping the money you'd be spending on rent in your pocket.  

There is a lot more information that could answer your question 2 than can fit in a post. I would definitely start by searching in the forums for what your looking for and I'm sure it's been asked and answered before. And listen to the podcasts. They're great for getting information from people who are both novice and seasoned investors. 

Hope that helps.  

Joe

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  • Real Estate Agent · Naperville, IL · Member since 2013 · 402 posts · 177 votes
    11y

    @Joel Strehl

    Now is a great time for you to start learning from all of the knowledge here on the BP site! Make sure you visit the "learn" tab and get as much information as you can while still in school! I think a great way for you to start while still in school is getting a 3-4 bedroom house and renting out the rooms to friends (House hack). This way you can monitor what is going on in the house while still having the mortgage paid off. It will teach you about just how much work goes into having a property of your own.

    Good luck!

  • Investor · Shakopee, MN · Member since 2015 · 4 posts · 0 votes
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    @Josh Mitchell

    Really appreciate the advice sir. As a side note, I used to live in Wheaton, IL. Very close to your hometown of Naperville!

  • Real Estate Agent · Naperville, IL · Member since 2013 · 402 posts · 177 votes
    11y

    @Joel Strehl

    Small world!

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Clinton Township, MI · Member since 2014 · 71 posts · 12 votes
    11y

    Hi @Joel Strehl

    Welcome to the community. I think the advice @Josh Mitchell gave above is a great idea. I wish I would have bought a house in college and rented out the other rooms. Would have been a great learning experience. Not to mention you can get good rates with conventional or FHA loans with a lot less down than bank financing for investment properties.

    One book I just finished reading was the Book on Investing in Real Estate with No (and low) Money Down by @Brandon Turner, it was awesome with a lot of good info that you can probably use for your current situation. 

    For searching for the property, my advice would be to find a Realtor in the area and start looking on Craigslist at FSBOs. You can probably find a good realtor that works with investors at a local real estate investing association meeting.  

    And the main thing for rentals is cash flow. So based on sale prices of properties in the area, calculate how much your monthly payment would be with your loan, figure out what kind of rents you could charge per room based on other rentals in the area, and see what kind of return you could get. (And I would factor in some expenses in your calculation like maintenance, etc). Even if it's just living for free for now, that'll help by keeping the money you'd be spending on rent in your pocket.  

    There is a lot more information that could answer your question 2 than can fit in a post. I would definitely start by searching in the forums for what your looking for and I'm sure it's been asked and answered before. And listen to the podcasts. They're great for getting information from people who are both novice and seasoned investors. 

    Hope that helps.  

    Joe

  • Investor · Shakopee, MN · Member since 2015 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    11y

    @Joe Mazur 

    Thanks for the help. My mom and brother currently live in Clinton Twp. and I spend a good amount of time there when I visit them. Small world yet again in this thread lol. Recently my mom has been looking at a bunch of houses in the Clinton Twp. area in hopes of either finding rental properties or doing flips (I think flips are her ultimate goal but she is a novice real estate investor as well and would like to gain more knowledge before she begins).

    What are your thoughts on the north-of-16-Mile-Road property market for my mom's sake?

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Clinton Township, MI · Member since 2014 · 71 posts · 12 votes
    11y

    The Clinton Township area north of 16 mile is a nice area. The retail values of properties in that area range from 100-300k depending on what neighborhood you're in which I think are pretty good ARVs for flipping because you want a price that a lot of home buyers will want to buy in. But I'm sure a lot of the more experienced rehabbers on the site can give a better opinion on the best retail values which may be in the 100-200k range. 

    From all that I've read on the site and listened to on the podcast is that you want to have multiple exit strategies. So when you're looking for houses to rehab, think about what would you do if it won't sell for some reason. So when you buy a property that has an ARV of say 150k, and for some reason it won't sell, could your fall back plan be to rent it out and still make a return. So if you had to get financing on it at 30yr 4.5% loan for example, could it still cash flow. With the higher value properties this may be more difficult. Just some food for thought.

  • Real Estate Agent · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2012 · 161 posts · 27 votes
    11y

    @Joel Strehl Welcome to BP! I'm based out of Minneapolis. 

    1. I would write down your acceptance criteria for your first investment (cash flow, down payment, building size, etc.). Then I would contact a real estate agent who specializes in these types of investments in your area. Feel free to send me a PM and I may be able to refer you to someone. You can also attend local investment club meetings and meet wholesalers that may have these property types available. 

    2. Typically this is how a transaction would go: Get pre-qualified through a bank before you start looking so when you find your property you are ready to submit an offer. You will view properties in person and once you find one that fits your criteria you will submit an offer (your agent will draw this up and answer any questions you have through the process). The seller will either accept, decline or counter your terms. Once you agree on terms of the offer and both parties sign you have an executed agreement. Typically you will have a inspection and financing contingency. The inspection contingency gives you the opportunity to hire a licensed inspector to inform you of any property defects, which you can negotiate with seller. The financing contingency is in case your financing falls through (job loss, etc.) you can cancel the contract and get your earnest money deposit back. If this period goes smoothly, then you will prepare to close. Closing is where the funds go to the seller and the deed goes to the buyer. You will usually do a walk through the day before closing to ensure it's in the same condition as when you made your offer. After closing the keys are yours and it's time to cash flow! 

    There are a lot of different ways a transaction can unfold and this is by no means an all inclusive list of what happens during a transaction, but it gives you an idea. 

    Cheers, Sawyer 

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