Can you HELOC/Cash-out Refinance a DSCR loan?

Can you HELOC/Cash-out Refinance a DSCR loan?

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Hi! I'm very new to this all and have loved reading through the forums, I'm learning a ton. TIA for the guidance!

I've been learning about DSCRs, HELOCs, Heloans, Cash-out Refinancing, etc. lately and I just had the question come to mind: can you HELOC/Cash-out Refinance a DSCR loan?

My wife and I would like to buy a rental next year (most likely using a DSCR loan, to dodge the DTI requirement), but I'm not completely sure if that would get us stuck down the road. If our rehab/the appreciation of the next few years raises the property value to the point where we'd want to pull equity out of it to use toward a subsequent rental, would we be able to on a DSCR? If so, what would be the best way to go about doing that?

Thank you for the help! I really appreciate it. 

Liam

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Nicholas L.Pro Member
Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
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@Liam Willder

yes, you can generally refinance out of a DSCR loan and into a new loan. but there are pre-payment penalties in the first few years that incentivize you not to:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/49/topics/1179403-dscr-...

here's the thing, though - you generally wouldn't buy with a DSCR loan, rehab, and then refinance again; usually you'd refinance into a DSCR loan, and be done.  

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  • Nicholas L.Pro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    2y

    @Liam Willder

    yes, you can generally refinance out of a DSCR loan and into a new loan. but there are pre-payment penalties in the first few years that incentivize you not to:

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/49/topics/1179403-dscr-...

    here's the thing, though - you generally wouldn't buy with a DSCR loan, rehab, and then refinance again; usually you'd refinance into a DSCR loan, and be done.  

  • Member since 2021 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    2y

    @Nicholas L.

    Awesome information about the penalties, thank you for sharing that. 

    I'm interested to hear—why do you say that you typically wouldn't buy with a DSCR loan? Would you recommend going for a conventional->rehab->refinance (DSCR) instead or something? Would love to hear what is best practice for something like this. Thanks!

  • Lender · Member since 2020 · 1 post · 0 votes
    2y

    @Liam Willder because If you purchase with a DSCR it is expected to be occupied by a renter, often by the time the loan closes or shortly thereafter. You can certainly get a dscr loan on a vacant property it will just be subject to a lower LTV. If you're interested in purchasing and adding value so you can pull out the equity I think you should look into hard money/construction loans. They can help you with acquisition and rehab. for a premium. Then you can refi the construction loan into a DSCR.

  • Nicholas L.Pro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    2y

    @Liam Willder

    if it's a BRRRR or a flip, generally you would buy with cash or hard money.

    then if it's a BRRRR, you'd refinance into a DSCR loan. if a property is distressed, you generally wouldn't buy it with either a conventional loan or a DSCR loan.

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