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Updated 9 months ago, 03/21/2024

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Living with Parents and Owning a Negative Cash-Flow Single-Family

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Hello Everyone,

This is my first ever post here, and I'm excited to join the community and learn more. I'm seeking advice on my current situation and the best route for achieving my real estate goals.

For context, I'm 23 years old, living in Providence, RI, with the aim of owning 5 rental units and my own home in the next 10 years. Over the past two years, I've been working two jobs and channeling all my income into my Roth IRA and savings account. Currently, I'm still living with my parents. They have no rush for me to move out, as I have a great relationship with them and my siblings, and I assist with household maintenance.

Recently, a single-family home became available in the neighborhood, just a block over from my family's home and a minute from my workplace. Seeing it as a great potential future home, I decided to make an offer.

The offer was accepted, and I purchased the house with the intention of staying at my parents' place while renting out the home until I'm ready to buy a duplex, moving closer to my goal. Essentially, I'm holding onto this property for myself and dipping my toes into landlord responsibilities in the interim.

However, I'm now unsure if I'm taking the best route, as despite aiming for breakeven or positive cash-flow, the house isn't attracting any applicants. It has been on the market for 21 days with over 50 views per day and multiple saves. It's becoming apparent that it'll cash-flow negative, the mortgage is $2892/month and rental estimates are $2650/month. I should note that I can afford the entire mortgage and maintenance costs on my own, and I have no other debt.

Considering all of this context, what is the smartest move for me to take from here?

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How many bedrooms are there? Can you add more?

Can you try rent by the room?

Depending on the number of rooms, section 8 may also be a good option. 5BR is paying like 3K with utilities in PVD.

Ultimately, I think you should sell it. Then buy a 3, then 2, then single family. Your low down payment loans will go a lot further that way!

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    From what you have given us it doesn't seem like that good of deal you would need it to rent for $3500 to $3700 to make it really cash flow. House hacking is a really common thing listed here because it works you can buy a 2 to 4 unit will little down. Rinse and repeat. I would look at either moving in and enjoying your own home or sell for better opportunities. 

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    Quote from @Luan Oliveira:

    How many bedrooms are there? Can you add more?

    Can you try rent by the room?

    Depending on the number of rooms, section 8 may also be a good option. 5BR is paying like 3K with utilities in PVD.

    Ultimately, I think you should sell it. Then buy a 3, then 2, then single family. Your low down payment loans will go a lot further that way!

    It has the possibility to add 2 bedrooms and a bathroom with enough time and money. It's looking like the general consensus is that I jumped the gun with purchasing and should sell it if I really want to be efficient.

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    Quote from @Daniel Brown:

    From what you have given us it doesn't seem like that good of deal you would need it to rent for $3500 to $3700 to make it really cash flow. House hacking is a really common thing listed here because it works you can buy a 2 to 4 unit will little down. Rinse and repeat. I would look at either moving in and enjoying your own home or sell for better opportunities. 


    I appreciate your answer, looks like I jumped the gun with this purchase...

    This may be a dumb question - I've never sold a house before, would I need cash saved up if I sell it for the same or more than I bought it for, or does it all come from the proceeds of the sale? I'm basically asking to see if I need to rent it out for a year while saving, or if I should just sell it asap. 

    It was appraised at higher than I paid for it, which I guess is some good news.

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    The appraised value probably won't help. Appraisers are often generous with their value because they assume you will hold onto the property for 3-5 years. if they knew you were going to sell a couple months later, they would have lowered their valuation.

    You will lose money with a sale due to REALTOR and closing costs. The only way I see you getting out of this is if you can rent by the room and increase earnings, but even that's a stretch. 

    Based on what you've told us, I would sell it and take the immediate hit. Lick your wounds and educate yourself on how to analyze property before you try again.

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    Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

    The appraised value probably won't help. Appraisers are often generous with their value because they assume you will hold onto the property for 3-5 years. if they knew you were going to sell a couple months later, they would have lowered their valuation.

    You will lose money with a sale due to REALTOR and closing costs. The only way I see you getting out of this is if you can rent by the room and increase earnings, but even that's a stretch. 

    Based on what you've told us, I would sell it and take the immediate hit. Lick your wounds and educate yourself on how to analyze property before you try again.


     I appreciate the guidance, I'll learn from this and move on.

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    Not being there and knowing the local market, I still think there may be an option to hold that house and deal with the negative CF for a year or two....allowing the natural market equity increase to catch up. Then at least you could recover your investment.....

    But like I said, we don't know what your market is like...do you think it is going to appreciate enough for you to hold it? I would call a local Realtor (maybe the one that got you the house?) and ask what they think....