Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Starting Out
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated almost 11 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

11
Posts
0
Votes
Ted Bachman
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Hernando, FL
0
Votes |
11
Posts

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

22,059
Posts
14,127
Votes
Jon Holdman
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mercer Island, WA
14,127
Votes |
22,059
Posts
Jon Holdman
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Mercer Island, WA
ModeratorReplied

Sorry, @Karen Margrave and @Don Konipol but I'll stand by my statements. Now, I will acknowledge that none of these terms have any official meanings. And never will because there's no body to officially define them. Ultimately almost all money being lent for mortgages is "private". Meaning that it is money from some person that's being invested. When a bank makes a portfolio loan they're loaning money they have received from individuals who have savings accounts or CDs. Yet nobody would claim a bank mortgage is "private money". Many hard money lenders are often lending out money they have also gathered from individuals. I will argue a "private money loan" is when one person loans money to another. No middle man involved to take a cut of the interest or points or to tack on fees. I would say "peer to peer lending" has a distinction from private money in that one loan is funded by a number of individuals, not just one. And, yes, I'd agree with Don that the people funding these loans are typically faily unsophisticated. By the time you've accumulated enough cash to loan someone $100K (which should mean you have at least five to 10 times than amount of cash available) you're probably a pretty sophisticated investor. Those people absolutely do exist.

But, yes, all these are just fine slices of an onion. None of these terms have any real, official meaning. And none of them really have any implications about the rate and terms of the loan. Any of them could be all over the place.

I'll also say that I think when people say "I'm looking for private money" what they really mean is "I want hard money sort of terms (easy no get, loose credit qualifications, loan on a junker property) but I want lower interest rates, points and fees than I will get from a HML". That's fine. There are people out there who will make such loans. I've met some. And there are people who borrow on those terms. I've met some of them, too, most recently a rehabber I chatted with at the dump while we were both unloading our piles of debris.

Loading replies...