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Updated about 7 years ago on . Most recent reply

Account Closed
  • Castleton On Hudson, NY
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LLC or sole proprietor?

Account Closed
  • Castleton On Hudson, NY
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Well... I have been talking about if for years. I think for many, a may have sounded more like a talker and not a do-er. I'll be closing on my first 2 unit in a week or so. I just went ahead with the formation of an LLC. I'm doing a cash deal and am wondering if I should form as an LLC or sole? I wan't to do it soon as I want to purchase the property with the business name. I read somewhere that you're supposed to strictly keep personal and business funds separate. Do I just purchase the property with personal money and put it the business name, or transfer the property over after.

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Sam Alomari
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Sam Alomari
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Hi @Account Closed

I am not a CPA or a Lawyer, but I've done the research hundreds of times and here is my personal opinion based on my research:

From accounting perspective:

If you plan to flip, use an S-Corp or an LLC taxed as an S-Corp for (better flexibility).

For buy & hold, if you are making too much money and if you hold many properties under the same entity, You need S-Corp or an LLC taxed as an S-Corp. If you are loosing money "on paper), or if the income is not significant, stick with the LLC.

If you form a single member LLC, IRS will treat you as a disregarded entity and you will be taxed as a sole proprietor. If you form an S-Corp, the IRS expects that you receive a minimum reasonable salary (pay payroll tax), and whatever profit left you can take as a distribution (no payroll tax).

From Liability perspective:

It is never enough protection to hold a property inside an entity aka "Outside protection". You also need to protect your assets from the inside as well. When you hold a property in an entity, your personal assets might be protected from your tenants or any liability litigation you might face for owning that property, but if you, your kids or your wife get in personal liability litigation for something such as a car accident, or a fight,, there is a chance that you'll never see your personal assets again including your property that you hold in an LLC.

Umbrella policy is never enough. I strongly recommend working with a good asset protection lawyer in your area.

Business VS Personal

What you heard about strictly keeping personal and business funds separate is true. No matter what entity do you form or even if you decide to go as a sole, you need to separate your business funds/expenses/etc from personal. It will make your life easier and you will have better chance surviving an audit.

When I buy a property, usually i fund my LLC (wire money from personal account to business account) and record it as either a loan to my business or a contribution. Any generated income or accrued expenses as a result of owning that property should go through my business checking account or business credit card. Your accountant will be able to easily link your business credit card and checking accounts to your accounting software such as Quickbooks and easily maintain your books.

If I don't separate personal from business, it will be a huge mess and I will never be able to get my books right. Also remember that many real estate buy & hold investors prefer to form an entity per each property. How else would you know if your property is profiting or losing money?

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