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Nick Scalero
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Self-Directed IRA Business Structure - Feedback please

Nick Scalero
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Mountain View, CA
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So I have this chunk of change in my IRA. I found a company (NAFEP) who will be the custodian for a small fee. They will setup a Trust for me and buy interest in the Trust from the cash in the IRA. The cash will go into a bank account in the name of the trust and I can write checks to buy assets (with some restrictions).

So I put $200 - 250K in, purchase a property or two (also in the name of the Trust). The rental income from the property goes back into the bank account. the property appreciates, hopefully... ;0)

I can also open a brokerage account (also in the name of the Trust) and fund the brokerage account from the checking account. That way I can reinvest the small amounts of monthly income from the property into traditional assets (i.e. securities). and keep the money compounding that way.

Setup cost is reasonable and I'm not ready to discuss ROI, etc. This is not a business plan. I only want to get feedback on the structure.

It seems that the only items I'd have to manage are the bank account, brokerage account and rental property (or use management). The Trust would have to have an annual tax return, but I will pay someone to do that.

I don't need dispursements for more than 10 years.

If I die in the meantime, the Trust and it's associated accounts and assets would go to my wife as benificiary.

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Jon Holdman
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Jon Holdman
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I've done a similar thing with Guidant Financial using an LLC rather than a trust. Its worked out OK, though it is somewhat expensive to set up, about $3000.

The irritating thing is the current custodian, Trust Company of America, has raised its fees. In addition, its requiring you to keep some cash in their account, where previously all the cash is in the LLC. They're removed the limit on the liquidation fees, which were previously capped at $500. For your $250,000, they would now take $2,500 if you moved your money away from them. Guidant has a new company, IRA Services, that will take over, but you still have to pay the $500 to get the money away from TCA and IRA services does require you to keep some money in their account, too.

So, this all works OK, but its not quite as trouble free as they might lead you to believe.

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