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Dan Schwartz
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Craigslist's "Red Paperclip" Story...applied to real estate?

Dan Schwartz
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Baltimore, MD
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For those of you who are unfamiliar, a man was able to trade his up from a red paperclip to buy an entire house in just under a year...

You can read the story and see the various trades he made here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_red_paperclip

These trades happened all over North America, and were done as somehwat of an experiment. However, it has always had me thinking about how this can be applied to basic investment strategy, and with real estate in particular.

I'm just getting my feet wet into actually buying/fixing/and holding properties for my own portfolio after doing 60+ wholesale deals these last 2 years, but through 1031 or like-kind exchanges and such...can't this same strategy be applied directly to real estate? ie. trade up from a 1 br apartment to a 250 unit apartment building, through realistically attainable deals, rehabs, financing, and value plays?

Do you see any issues that would arise with this? Or is this generally the idea in the first place and it took me "the red paperclip" to fully grasp wealth building...?

-Dan

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Dave Toelkes
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Dave Toelkes
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Steve Babiak,

You may have misunderstood the question I am raising. I have no problem with exchanging raw land for a rental property. This satisfies the like kind rule and as long as both the relinquished property and the replacement property meet the Sec 1031 qualified use rule, the exchange can be tax deferred.

Dan posed the question of whether it is possible to start with a small 1 BR apartment and, through a series of 1031 exchanges, end up with a 250 unit apartment building. Dan referred us to the bartering story as an example of how a number of sequential trades were used to trade something small and inexpensive for something big and costly.

Of course it can be done in a series of taxable events in a fashion similar to the paper clip story. But Dan wants to use 1031 exchanges which implies that he wants the entire series of exchanges to be tax deferred.

The caution I was raising is that in a tax deferred exchange, both the relinquished property and the replacement property must be held for a qualfied investment use to validate the 1031 exchange. A qualified investment would apply to property held for future appreciation (e.g., raw land) or to a property held for the production of income (a rental property). There is no definite holding period specified in the tax code, though many exchange gurus suggest one to two years. My concern is that I am not sure how Dan would convince the IRS that each property in each leg of the exchange was used for a qualified investment purpose if his holding period is so short that his intended "investment use" for each replacement property acquisition is never clear.

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