@Ryan Ahlgrim I don't know any reason to list it as For Sale but I would check the bottom of the ad and see what is listed as the source.  

I'm looking for reviews for funsforrealestate.com which is a gap funding source.

It's a legal 4 units, I re-zoned and I built a the new unit in the place of the old commercial space.The problem with the refinance seems to be the same from different sources, I'm in the "no man's land" zone with the 4 unit.

I would even broaden it out to what other sources of funding do people use?

   Does the government, private organizations, or any other source provide grants for real estate investing?

The smiles of success of these people surrounded by poverty is another source of motivation.The health and happiness of my children is a strong source of motivation.  

If I'd like to try and maintain the pace I'm at, I'll need to source new PML's.  

Google is leading me down a rabbit hole, so I thought I'd go straight to a top-notch source!

Hi Gus - thanks for the post and the link, I'll check that out.I always look at capital as another piece of the expense pie and weigh out the cost of any and all sources of capital vs the cost of the deal, the management (to hire it), sales costs etc.In my 22 years in real estate, I have never seen this much capital playing the game, it's everywhere. 

since they are not saying how much and they require some registration before they can surprise you with the hefty price I guess.Also anyone know a good source of training on RE investing around NYC area?