I never charged a late fee (I know it was my fault for not charging) but I asked them to gradually start paying on time again and they simply said they could not... and on top of that I raised the rent and they saID they would not pay the increase until the property was updated... so I decided to evict them... the problem is... they say they are owed their deposit and their last month rent... they claim that they were paying on time (I have text messages showing they were paying late) and that they want their security deposit back (the house was in horrible conditions when we got it back) to start off... the front door was supposed to be replaced by them because a fireman had to break in because her mom fell and could not get up... then when they were evicted they left a 20 feet by 5 feet high pile of junk outside the yard... they took the locks off the side doors and a door inside my master room, they took a fan from the family room... they took some of the light sockets, they never repainted a black wall in the bedrooms and an orange one in the family room, they took the door off the pantry (not to mention it's literally black of how dirty it was) the new shower I made is now black!!!!

It fell in price to ~$140k.  

She was living in the house for some time anyway but fell behind on her taxes.

Because, when we bought our Fourplex (using an FHA 203(k) we actually got it because the first buyer's loan fell through (VA) because he had no prior landlord experience, which is a requirement for a VA on this type of property 

There are too many people who fell into that because my whole generation was badgered by the idea that the only way to be successful was attend a 4 year college.

It most likely would have to be a property that you could do some sort of value add or some screaming deal that fell through the cracks and the more seasoned investors just missed it.If by being done "correctly" you mean the person placed a down payment on the property you will  get your cash flow, but it will never work out the same as the benefit you received while you lived there, unless you adjusted your numbers to reflect a rented unit to begin with. 

I don't blame you because a smart person told you to do it that way, but what you fell into was the DEEP DARK HOLE of trying to negotiate price over the phone with someone with whom you have established ZERO rapport & you have not seen the property so you could be a mile off anyway.  

I saw real estate for what it is and fell in love with the realization that this year I could potentially make over 100k and that's only within 8-9 months.Get this.... at first, I was **asking** my wife if she thought we should do this or that and she dejected.  

Also, the Antioch negotiation fell apart.

He looks at Bitcoin price and he says "Bitcoin fell $150 since this morning... you owe use $2,250 more for the car" Yeah sounds like a great idea.