Good poker players make great negotiators in my opinion.Steinhorn?

They are serious players !

You lose if that happens, even if you end up winning any judgment.

So I'm doing a lot of research regarding buying notes, haven't bought one yet, but it looks like it could be a bit of fun.I was checking out some loans on various websites (I'm sure these aren't great deals, same with finding house on websites) as a way to familiarize myself with different aspects of loans, I figured I'd stick to performing loans, could just hold for a decent return, or maybe tweak them a bit and create a little win-win situation.Then I'm seeing these heavily discounted 1st lien NPN's, now I can see a great opportunity in modifying these, allowing someone who wants to to remain in their house for a lower monthly, and since the note is heavily discounted creating some nice cash flow for my money.

That being said, the big players and the newbies overpaying can't buy them all.

I always try and negotiate a win-win situation with whomever I do business with.

Many times agents will encourage their buyers to offer way over the asking price in order to win the bidding war.

IN own there is 5 major players the only bar that has changed hands was 13 years ago and that was a shady place running drugs and now a very succesful place ad I am close with the owner i know his numbers.

I'm trying to think of a win/win but not sure how to structure it.

He needs to feel like he's winning too.