Ok, so I have a deep interest in helping people understand how to be successful in real estate.

, thats a tough question i ask myself every day. i am a 31 yr old husband and father of two who gets up and goes to a job every day to make other people wealthy. i am truly deep in the trenches of the "rat race" and it's killing me to see it every day. it also kills me to se everyone around me every day that is exactly where i am and they dont even know it, they're too busy worrying about vacation, 401k, house payments and all the toys they can get loans for. well i'm reading all i can get my hands on and cruising this as well as other forums all the time. i am determined to someday work for myself even if it's just enough to support my family. one thing that is lucky for me is that we are accustomed to living below our means, meaning we can get by on very little compared to others.i have absolutely !

One of my mentors taught me (and several others) that if we didn't feel embarrassed with our offer price, then we didn't ask for a deep enough discount.

So here is my dillema...I am in to these properties pretty deep due to the condition Obviously marketing to Investors/Business owners that own Sober Housing units and stuff of that nature really limits my buyer base.

Kind of gives you insight as to how deep the problem really is

I only dig deep like that if I think it's going to be a GREAT deal.

Most of our Borrowers luckly have some cash stashed to buy these at such a deep discount.

Susan, it is obvious that you have what it takes and I also notice some hostility on BP, not sure what brings it on, I guess we humans tend to be emotional beings, for better or worse, sometimes a little sparring gets us enthused and makes us realize who we are deep down inside in spite of it all... just my simple two cents worth, not aimed at anyone; I just happen to enjoy 99% of what I read here and would hate to lose any of the quality contributors, ego and all!

If we consider the inflation adjusted appreciation (what your appreciation will really buy), then the appreciation gain is far less than $165,000 at 30 years and with the negative cash flow you're actually deep in the hole at 30 years (considering inflation adjusted appreciation and negative cash flow).

There is another thread on here in the last four weeks where landlords talked about security for their homes - you might want to check that out....here is what I do about signs - 1 in yard burried deep - make it very hard to pull out.- 2 You can't change the signs or numbers because they are the stick on that glow in the dark / or light up when a car passes by - so don't give them that optoin3.