I still find off market for my clients I just do not really want to list the property etc.

On my new builds we hit the double cash on cash in certain markets sometimes its only 50%.

I have an investor friend who is a very successful wholesaler in a market, (south FL), that is crawling with wholesalers. 

My market is houston text.

Milwaukee Cleveland Toledo great markets.

Usually, a Sub-To deal has a better rate than the market rate and so does seller financing.

The buyers sittings on tons of cash waiting for market to change ( yield buyers ).

Occasionally I'll see properties coming on the market where the seller has a VA loan with a low interest rate.  

Rise48 is raising preferred equity at a valuation that is not market, with income growth projections that are unreasonable, and putting $7,000,000 of new investor cash back in their pockets... $7,000,000!!

There are many markets that this will work great.