@Harris Trail I hire someone on fiverrr for $0.03

Originally posted by @Theresa Harris:@Or Laor Stern  I'd call the police again and tell them it is a break and enter. 

@Don Harris Thanks for the comment, Don.

If that many can still survive while providing such service, that tells me there may be bigger, more fundamental issues with the overall market that stack the desk against out of state owners, rather than just a sign of a couple bad apple PM's that we had the unusual misfortune to endure back to back.Since the commission on a single modest 1 bedroom apartment can be more than a years worth of PM fees, I get that any firm that does both selling and PM can afford to profoundly drop the ball on PM and still thrive.Maybe I need a dedicated PM?

Quote from @Theresa Harris: Are those all that you are using or do you also include property taxes, mortgage interest, etc which your PM won't be involved with? 

According to those that believe the 2%-50%, I must be stupid, but I'm surviving!!

Quote from @Harry Shmelts: I have a close family member who wants to move out of their home and offered to sell it to me for a major discount.

@Theresa Harris so the thing is that we originally had planned for hexagon tile which we knew would he more expensive including the labor costs.

Also, if you do refinance it and buy more and the new properties are also "appreciation plays", you now have to bankroll multiple properties each month with a negative cashflow to survive. 

Thanks, Harri :)