YOU PAID YOUR DUES.I'd like to go over some of the main points I think you're making and illustrating here.

@Derek Cespedes the IRR is really only relevant if you expect to sell the property over some horizon, but as the previous person mentioned you’d need the time horizon and exit price...there are IRR calculators on google but I can email you and example too if that’s helpful...the formula provided is correct but my guess is an example would illustrate how it works.Also, back to your original question I would look at similar properties in your area and use those to compare.

What I am trying to put together isn't necessarily marketing for a specific opportunity, but rather something that can clearly illustrate how an investment in our fund and the PPM works/makes them/us money - is a win/win for everyone.

I think if you consider it for awhile it becomes obvious that a multitude of considerations come into play that make a property a good deal.One illustration, I happen to know an investor in Seattle that is and has been doing quite well for years buying apartments, holding them for 5 years or less and selling them.

Thanks Bill for illustrating one of many reasons to have a good contract in place.

David,Actually the trustee would collect the lease payment and these trust only work in the US I don not how the UK structures their land trusts..A land trust protects the title/deed due to the holds both the legal and equitable title to the property thus they own and you now are assigned a beneficial interest so you effectively control but own nothing.That means a creditor can not look up your name on property you own and lien the title if they can it can prove to be very difficult to sell w/o settling the debt first and provide a clean chain of title.You also have a degree of asset protection as well of the beneficiaries in the trust and I can on and on.This is why a beneficiary in your property can NOT claim equitable interest due to the trustee has equitable title.We take full advantage of US tax laws in how the trusts are setup..We follow federal law..Ralph: I appreciate your input on LLC's and aware of LLC setups and would probably do that unless it was an involved setup..thanks for the advice though.The trustee is the management and collection company yet your LLC can also enforce it as well in being a beneficiary..If you forward me your email I will send you the 30 benefits of using them in your investing.. a good read and no soliciting just wish to provide helpful information.Do what is best for you I just wish to illustrate the advantages in using land trusts to control property..

If you think that article is about health care, then that means you *ONLY* read up to the third paragraph, which was a single example to illustrate the point of the REST OF THE ARTICLE.Sorry, but you clearly *DIDN'T* read the article...JSCOTT- 2nd post- You failed to list the actual % drop in real estate...Huh?

Your friend illustrates my point.

(don't apply the landlords 50% rules here, no need for them) 10k down - 8k to bring current is = 2k pocket.....( not great but still pocket money ) $400 a month cashflow +/- a few bucks (this deal is just for illustration purposes) 2yrs later your tenant buyer actually buys the property from you for 10k/15k/20k above what is owed on the mortgage...... 2k upfront $400 +/- a month cash and your choice of the backend.......

Matt........Sub's work in any market........it doesn't matter if we're appreciating 100% a day. that 1 guy/girl/couple that just got transferred from their job doesn't have time to hire a Realtor and fix up the little things that needs fixing to make it re-sell ready.The same goes for anyone else who 'needs' to sell....for instanceyour selling your home......it's fairly nice and not much to do with fix ups etc....I come to you and show you how if you listed it with a Realtor and it took 30-60days to sell what you'd actually be walking away with....Think about that......Sale price (minus) commission and 2 months mortgage = 5k dollars(ish) ......these are just illustration purposes ofcourse....I then tell you I'll pay you $ for your equity in cash today and close tomorrow.........They just sold their home in 1 day and walked away with money at closing without having to deal with any commissions..again just illustration purposes, I'm sure someone will come on and give a different illustration, the point is Sub2's and L/O option work in EVERY market