If I were the money person, I would want to see the deal first.

How much downpayment money do you have?  

Private Money West Texas How did you add value to the deal?

Hardy Money Refinance To Conventional How did you add value to the deal?

Section 8 may feel like guaranteed money, but they can stop paying or pull back funds at any time for a variety of reasons.  

@Cliff DurrettIn some instances the first will take a discount to give the second some money, but in this instance they are so underwater I don’t think the second will approve this as they are basically getting wiped, and they have much higher BPO’sAlso be aware the lender may satisfy the loan but not release the debt, meaning they will allow for short sale but then get a judgment to have the balance of Debt validated and still owed

ThanksSo you want to buy without putting down ANY money ? 

Making smaller apartments from single family isn't going to go over well either because people are used to getting more square footage for their money, unlike in NYC.Micron is putting a chip factory in Clay, which is northeast of Syracuse.

This mistake has cost me a boat load of money.

In the end there are many ways to make money in real estate you just have to figure out what works for you as well as what you enjoy.