If there are winders built before the 1980's and you want to update them you'll have to reconfigure as the code was different and winders need 6" of flat at every point.

The stakes involved are also high enough that it would not be surprising to see the real estate lobby pursuing federal legislation to protect the system that they have created.I thought there were low flat fee options for listing on the MLS that don't require any agent?

@George Despotopoulos Well my father has realestate in another country and the experience that I have in real estate is managing my brothers 3 flat here in chicago and also helping my dad lease out and rehab his property in mexico.

This comes back to location, but also may make sense to find something like a flat with a full-service entrance and 24/7 security or a nice duplex in a great area.

I have had operating agreements drafted by Atty Taylor Rens for less than $1k--he also offers flat rate services on the Brew City REI page.

I like Vegas as a market, but not for fourplexes, they’re old, in c neighborhoods, usually with flat roofs.

@Lisa Williams I'm probably looking to be pretty hands-off as I'm in the process of fixing up the 2-flat I'm house-hacking up here and am mostly looking for possibly a little bit of income and a place to stay when I visit my family down there, which is why I was looking into a property manager to handle everything where I can just stop in a couple times a year.

Typically multi-families like a two or three flat go for the same, sometimes even less, than a comparable single family home. 

One of mine, I did cash for keys (after losing about 3 month's payments) and not only was it trashed, there were 22 TV's (not flat screen), a pile of tires, and a little over 19 tons of trash and garbage (2 roll off dumpster's full). 

They usually charge a flat fee for a determined map boundary area, and then more if beyond.On the driver note, I tried to get my adult daughter interested in Uber or even Uber eats.