I am fairly competent with CH13 plans.  

I know you are probably not talking about Detroit and I know it is not fair, but I'm telling you the honest truth from my perspective.

I would gladly pay to be a member of an organization who is aggressive in seeking fairness for us Real Estate Investors.  

Seems like a fair response Account Closed - the question is regarding 'unethical' flipping.  

I am fairly new to both Bigger Pockets and real estate investing.

And any PMs out there, if you forgot to collect the agreed upon deposit from tenants what would you suggest as a fair way of handling the situation?

Oh, people are also renting places out for U of M commencement weekend and Art Fair, too. 

Even getting to that point takes a fair amount of manipulating the numbers to make it work.  

Follow me on this:You have $50,000 to allocate to RE, which tells me that you have achieved a fair amount of success in your life - you've found a certain competitive advantage...At the same time, we happen to be in a very difficult market today.

My partner knows the area fairly well, and were are hoping to get back there and do some fix and flips, as well as obtain some buy and hold properties as well.