No issues with open debate. 

Frankly and bluntly, the CA debate always has 2 sides.

@Mike FletcherIt seems like your point is to antagonize and debate for the sake of debating.  

Yup taxes, POT smell, homeless, crime are now gradually coming back as the points of debate given the original thesis that drove “NYCs obituary” was around people migrating out in droves to a sunshine state and living a relaxed high quality life and sipping tequilas everyday.

So given my track record of vetting tenants I'd been good - this guy is a pathological liar and a sociopath so he was able to pull one over on me - glad he's out.That being said I'm debating pulling photos from their FB pages and coupling them with photos of how he left the house, and putting FB posts in several local landlord forums, social shaming forums, and then paying $100 to advertise their misdeeds on FB, post the post on his military command's FB page, email it to their media relations etc - my whole reasoning is obviously I'm angry I was lied to, and to me the biggest deal of all is trust was broken which where I live is a HUGE deal and by the time this is done he's going to owe around $3-5k which to me is not an insignificant amount of money and I know with his Captains salary and BAH he can more than afford to pay me back.   

@Joe Villeneuve I find you to be a convincing debater.

"REI has never been better" debate that is floating around the internet. 

It is not so simple and debating that issue takes us away from productive conversation. 

Everyone here tries to be so nice and fair to both sides of a debate, but this is an issue where the debate has already been won decisively.

Spare me all the rants about "socialists"...... stop lumping every policy you don't agree with under the insult of being a "communist" or a "socialist"Want to debate the policy?....