I see there is a fee of $25 a meeting or a flat rate for a year membership so just curious what you went with, and what kind of value yu have gotten out of it.

There is an expectation that people will have a little common sense or at least a little investment or business sense and realize that there is a huge difference between Gross and Net.Rick -In light of your statements above, it's ironic that you referred to those questioning you in this thread as "ignorant"...but clearly that's an applicable term here...Your statement above that "cash flow...is...Rent...times 12 full months occupancy" is flat out incorrect (ignorant), both from an accounting and from standard use perspective...if you and your company truly believe this, I think it's time you added someone to your team who understands finance and accounting terms.What you describe above is NOT considered gross cash flow -- in fact it's not considered cash flow in any way, shape or form of the definition of cash flow.

What I a mean by site lines is if I am driving down the road if a property is flat I can see the whole building easily from my car or if the building is slightly elevated.

What your describing is not really a JV - It is more of a advanced wholesaler and I see it as a flat fee payment - not a long term partner.Unless you have a solid track record of 100+ deals I just dont see the services you mentioned valuable enough for me to give up equity.

The street is flat.

Having grown up in my family's 3-unit flat in SF, I feel these are some of the best investments.As mentioned, my goal is to net $2,500/month and be able to work part-time in real estate so I can quit my 2 jobs.

Instead of quitting flat out, find some other job that you're passionate about, work there until you have enough experience flipping/wholesaling/etc...

if it is valued at the 4-5k as you say, according to the provided info, i would offer the 4k. no reason to pay more than it is worth. i think he is playing jabs with you. with the flat info provided, i would take this as a learning experience and move to the next deal. just sounds very fishy to me.

If they see the house in real and they like it ..they want to place an offer on it …..the listing might be a discounted $350 flat rate with 1% payable to selling agent.

., which I flat out rejected....and then later after they didn't get anywhere with that was trying to convince me that I should accept the paperwork she sent me instead of the two years tax returns I ask for those self-employed (and incidentally she couldn't even show proof of enough income with what she did send), and even though I said this request was our written procedure, she accused me of discrimination.