If number 2 is in a great neighborhood and worth $150K, that one could be a steal. 

Clearly someone going to steal the copper, but it was all Pex.

Why I will never ever partner again on real estate:1. giving away trust and control 2. their mistakes can wreck my credit, eat cash, cause stress, and put me in danger3. it's easy to steal, short cut, have fake numbers, make lame promises... how do you overcome the list of never ever no way?

Your sole interest is in "stealing" her home from her (You may disagree with that, but listen with HER ears rather than your own)Here's a different way to get your own point across without raising their defenses ..."

the reason i wanted to know this is so i could put together reasonably offers, because i know most homeowners aren't gonna come out of pocket (if selling for less then what they owe) at the closing to just sell you their property than i was told by another investor to just ask the homeowner up front, but i've found out that works best if at all, when the homeowner calls you, which some times they still give you resistance. but when your as proactive as me and are also calling them, their is a whole lot more resistance from the homeowners to give you this info ((i guess they look at it like your gonna steal their equity or something if their is any to begin with))or maybe i'm asking for this info the wrong way, probably because i can't really back it up to them why i need that info in the first placebut anyway if anyone knows of a way to find a homeowners mortgage loan balance please let me know i'll be so thankful, because on some investing audio i heard two investors saying they don't even ask for this info because they can so easily find it through a simple search ((HOW))

How about I just lie/cheat and steal instead?

I can't tell you how many people lost their homes and credit by letting someone take sub too who either was an out and out crook from the start or just a bumbling newbie that got in over their head because they read about this strategy on BP and have little money and talk a good game and talk some unsophisticated seller into doing this.. the blind leading the blind...  

Look long term sir because if she's fighting you on this now then that's something you need to think about when it comes to the long term with a future wife.Sorry to be blunt sir but you need to make sure she doesn't steal your dream

Little things like monitoring utilities, connecting everything to surge protectors so appliances don't steal extra electricity, no cable or unnecessary entertainment additions.

I'm a stay at home mom trying to make a living while they are stealing money from people like me daily!