I think the buydown is a scam over the long haul.

Oh well, it is nice of @Tyler Jahnke to post this thread, I enjoy reading all the updates for one...That said, if someone (anyone for that matter) has to feel offended simply because I came out and said this is not going to work over long haul (my view, and I don't feel ashamed to say it), then you need to ask why you feel that way.....You can come and tell me that investing in A+ location in SF is not going to work, and I guarantee you I won't be offended...

This campus hosts a large Magnolia home goods store, high end furniture store, cupcake bakery, coffee shop, gardening shop, live music concert venue, large grass area with toys and balls for kids to play with, an open plaza with eight food trucks, a small baseball field (that Babe Ruth once played on and families can now play on for fun), a restored historic chapel (the oldest chapel in Central Texas), and six boutique shops with men, women, and children's products.

Having a safe forum for LPs the share their experiences is needed.Cheryl  In EVERY business there are two kinds of market participants; the people/companies in it for the long haul, through both good and not so good economic times, consisting of EXPERIENCED, PROFESSIONALS whose careers are dedicated to and dependent on fulfilling the needs of their clients/customers.The other type of participant are in the particular business because it’s OPPORTUNISTIC for them to be in it AT THE TIME.  

I have to expect we're in for a correction sooner or later given how long it's had a bull run (other than covid and the brief really shallow "recession" we had in 2022).But its returns will almost certainly be better than 6.5% over the long haul.

I'm in this for the long haul!

Well, this is a wonderful thread.All I can really contribute with enough experience to be absolutely sure of what I say: if you live on the coasts and your spreadsheet tells you your best passive returns over the long haul are going to be in the Rust Belt in cheap rentals, then your spreadsheet needs to be looked at by someone with a lot more experience in cheap Rust Belt rentals than you have.My own take on the musings here of why everyone wants to quit their job these day and its possible connection to young people and their participation trophies, their possible work-ethic failings, moral turpitude, contemptible world outlook, lack of grit, et hoc genus omne...yeah, I know I don't know squat about all that.

Happy to. Yes

Some people use the U-Haul data. 

Gov. mandates, laws, regulations, these are tools to control WHAT the product/service is, think safety focused. mandating no lead in toys, or fall-arrest gear for roofers, things like that, THAT is where it works.