Would like to learn about subcontractors and strategies with DES and town. 

As you drive around town, stop every time you see a porta-potty at a significant job site. 

Hello everyone,I am interested in exploring crowdfunding and I have a question.

That will likely be more than the 12% hard money, but will offer another option for you to explore. 

the other place were I have seen fortunes made in real estate is in Timber and in path of progress farmer bought the dirt outside of town town expands  DR Horton pays 10 mil for their farm..I see those.. but someone who is staking rentals with only 20 or 25% equity and making a 100 a month or 200 month.. while I have clients that do well. make 20 to 30k a month and live a nice lifestyle .. they are not in the same league and they work their but off for it.

Looking for thoughts or insights.... basically just exploring an idea

Get a part time job helping your dad renovate his flips, help him evaluate new potential deals, drive around town looking at properties for him, literally do anything that you can to help (and preferably get paid while your at it). 

I'm interested in scaling my business through private money and am starting to explore that avenue.

Let me know if you have any questions.I also host a casual monthly meetup for the KC area with a few other super cool local investors.Make it a point to join us if you're ever in town.

But in the long run, we'd both like to end up back in our small towns we grew up in, which are about 5 hours apart.