What is astounding to me is the ready acceptance by the people purchasing these guru programs that with only the guru training they’ll be able to make tons of cash by identifying and tying up all these 40% + discount deals that all of us with the experience, education and capital have somehow missed.  

The second duplex was like an episode of Hoarders and needed significant work (including an eviction and terminating the lease on the other side, however, I knew that going in and we discounted the price accordingly knowing that significant renovations were needed. 

So say they pay on the 7th then they would get a $50 discount and only pay $50.

I've found even though you can get some modest discounts it makes things much easier to keep everything with the broker.

Take a look at BP's blog where new articles are published every day: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog4.

Take a look at BP's blog where new articles are published every day: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog4.

Case Shiller used to publish stats on total return for residential RE for this century.  

Take a look at BP's blog where new articles are published every day: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog4.

Their explanation is that the numbers I'm seeing come from sources that only use data that is reported to them by realtors who choose to list rentals there for example and that most management companies like them will not publish their actual rents so their numbers are based on their own comps which are more accurate. 

Take a look at BP's blog where new articles are published every day: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog4.