And I am blunt about seeking profit while I help them….but if I can't solve an important problem for them, I emphasize that I won't insult them with a low-ball offer and will simply let them know we can't make it work for both parties and why.

Obviously I'm enamored with the idea of timing the market and you keep bringing up sound fundamentals that work regardless of my ability to read my crystal ball.

So to get the ball rolling I took the tax hit at ordinary income tax rates on my after-tax gains to fund my self directed Roth IRA.I'm still learning the ropes so I'm not sure that was the absolute best long term strategy.

Sounds like you want to be fair, just remember if the building had gone  up you'd be in a different ball game.Any addendum on restricting candles,,, might be a good idea. 

I know its not your specific scenario, but maybe will give you some ideas to get the ball rolling.Jeff V

If the area does not support rents in that range it is not a worth while investment as a rental.This is only a rough ball park number.

There's nothing that says you have to go balls to the wall from the time you start to the time you finish.

Find out why the low ball listing price.   

we are trying to evict the prior home owner and the lawyer has really dropped the ball on the whole process and cost us two months so far of not being able to even get in the house.

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