But no one has a crystal ball and can say when that change will occur.

I agree with @Adam Mittermeier, why make a low ball offer when the property is already listed 30-40k below market.

Do you have a crystal ball?

You'll have to "swag" what you think the future interest rate will be to come up with a break even point.Btw, I think you may be correct re: higher interest rates in 5 years, but as usual...my crystal ball is murky. 

Put reminders on your calendar to keep the ball rolling.

Do you think that puts me in the ball park for owner-occupied VA?

In exchange, they typically give me first right of refusal when the actually get the ball rolling on some deals. 

@Derrick Young that is the most odd-ball question I could ever think of on here, and even more odd-ball is I actually know this very well, lol. 

Turnkey providers can be good but sometimes they’ll sell you overpriced assets that are not fully turnkey and then drop the ball on management.

-We want the building, and will likely have to play ball, but it feels like we have no options or negotiating power except to just walk away.