Unfortunately, most of what got the market in trouble is back again now, arguably exponentially worse and with some new tricks up their sleeves.

I agree though... you either roll up your sleeves and make some sacrifices if you plan to DIY or you hire out the hard work and are happy to pay for the privilege. 

So if you have a lot of time to invest along with your money, dig deep, roll up your sleeves and jump in.

You have received a reply from the most reputable person in the real estate industry and the most trusted and admired Bigger Pockets contributor.Someone that has known first hand how I operate and has played a huge part on putting my company on the map.Someone that has no problems calling me out if/when I'm wrong.So for all reading, I think Jay's words speak enough volume.With your negative reviews blasted across every known Ohio Cashflow and Oz Realty review platform, it doesn't seem like you are taking responsibility so I disagree.You are out for blood and that's fine.You can have as much of mine as you want if it makes you "survive" and feel better.As someone that wears his heart on his sleeve and bleeds for the business and our investors I'm happy to take 100% responsibility.I have NEVER done what you have and would NEVER do what you have.There are others ways to resolve such matters.You could have approached me privately but "No".You waited to sell the property and the day it sold you went on this rampage...Reading our correspondence over my gut was telling me the same to not work with you.Below are some of your comments from a few years ago.It's such a shame it has come to this.This conversation becomes more and more absurd as it continues: I lost $15,800 buying a property from you.

We rolled up our sleeves, put on our thinking cap's, and focused on solutions, not the problems.

In fact I did the opposite and roll my sleeves up, dug my feet deeper into the ground, and continue to push and shove my way forward.

@Jonathan GreeneI can’t weigh-in on “where” to invest, but I sure agree with you ideas of rolling up your sleeves and getting physically involved.

Well, you get started by rolling up your sleeves, getting to work on time, and asking your boss for extra shifts. 

So now they've got it in their head that they can save $1,000-$2,000 by rolling up their sleeves & doing the dirty work.

Well, since it seems like this thread has gone a bit cold.Let's see if we can "re-ignite" the fire and get some comments 🤷‍♂️My heart is worn on my sleeve and I got nothing to hide.When we make a mistake, it's an honest mistake and we always do our best to rectify.Never hiding or running away from problems.We have been in the business since 2014 and are still here, chipping away through ups and downs.We have stood the test of time and that speaks for itself.How many other providers can say the same?