Please don't show me a chart about how CA prices go up in next 10-20yrs.

As this chart shows the increase in payout since 1981, let me ask how much does renovations costs today vs 1981?

IMO, I don't think Windsor is so dependent on the auto industry anymore, as hits from closures have already happened here in the past & it's still climbing the charts for REI.  

I tend to be analytical, so creating a chart that compares the different options on things like how much capital they generate, interest rates, long term implications (selling vs refi vs helocs), etc. 

MF you could have purchased for 10k per unit, now the avg is about 40- 65k,,, .We are still able to get good deals, (10% + net caps) just not off the chart great deals, well once in a while. 

I lived there until 2008 and it was always busy, but last year was off the charts.

These properties also tend to increase more in price on a percentage basis when the market heats up (See my other post for link to chart).

I've seen a few charts a few days ago indicating that the housing market is going to cool down in 2017.

There is no smoking going on at that point, just the residual that was absorbed by their clothing, hair, etc.

BiggerPockets as a really professional looking analysis chart you can just plug in the numbers and use that.