@Tein Hlwa - there are renovation Loan products where you can finance the cost of the renovation as part of the loan.

First lien HELOCs are the most powerful investing tool I know of.I think I'd look for another bank or institution that offers the first lien HELOC and compare costs, but you are absolutely onto the right product so in general, pursue that with determination.And to avoid assumption, check out velocity banking if you haven't already.

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If you can provide details on cities, mortgage products, resale / preconstruction properties, years it took, etc.

Now the product I offer is fundamentally different, a 24 hours active service when I used to be able to do maintenance anytime I wanted during business hours for the most part.   

The higher your score, the better your rate and I doubt they mention the self sustainability requirement for FHA when it comes to 3 and 4 units until you get pretty far into the transaction.You need a decent broker that can help you navigate the mortgage waters; not a bank or a clearinghouse because they don't have the breadth of products you need.  

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However, if you're specifically set on one of those markets I'd recommend Kansas City - landlord friendly state, lower property taxes, increasing population and diverse economy, a good supply of potential rentals that product good cash flow with a decent chance of future appreciation.

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