And is walking into a turnkey ready to rock building, the seller (whom I am presuming is now broke, but that may not be the case) even left the tables and chairs behind, all ready to have plates full of unethical inorganic genetically modified red meat dipped in butter placed on them. 

Even with no/low money down options, I suggest having ample reserves in case you need to come to the table with cash for some reason. 

Are they simply home improvement material hobbyists because they left money on the table?

if a PM has a % on repairs or rehabs, higher or lower or even doesn’t have (but its vendor recognize a 10% under the table) their interest will go thru bringing and finding repairs to do.If PM will be in charge of the finance and keep the budget aligned, it wouldn’t be the one who handles/hire/have interets in any expenditures.

I would suggest you save up as much as you can while you are doing your homework to be able to bring to the table when you find a deal that you want. 

As for the fee of pulling permits, here is a permit valuation table for LA for reference.http://ladbs.org/LADBSWeb/LADBS_Forms/PlanCheck/bldg_permit_valuation_table.pdf

Some people want flash with hot tubs, pool tables, swimming pools, kayaks, and brand new.   

I’ll start out.....My first hard money loan I took out September of 2017. 12% with 3% points to the broker at the table. 1 year with extensions available for 3 months with 1% fee.

Hey guysI started to do section 8 and i have a question lately i feel section 8 no paying according to the table sheet they have online in government website, they having appraiser do comps and paying as regular long term rental maybe a bit more but not tremendously. i called them , emailed and all but that is their strategy now , so i asked why they put wrong info on website, seems like they want to lure Landlords lol ..for example https://dhantx.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/FY24-Payment-S...You can see zip code 76227 with 5 bedroom showing $4921 (less bills $500) so its $4221.but actually people getting $2800-3000 how come it is ?

Find someone that brings to the table what you don't and partner with them.