What an investor gives up though is tax bene's and the chance ( well at least proforma wise) that you bought at X cap rate and can sell at Y cap rate and there is a big profit that is added on to your returns. 

I do this at least quarterly for some of my clients and they like being able to see the profit and loss reports. 

Thanks Dennis, I think you're right that planning for a more conservative return would be a good idea.I re-ran my numbers at an even more conservative level:Lower ARV: $800,000Lower income levels (I'm assuming it will take a couple years to get up to full potential income, but giving myself 3 years was a conservative estimate):Year 1: 50k (NOI $1,000)Year 2: 80k (NOI $31,000)Year 3: 100k (NOI $51,000)My ROI numbers come out to:1% (year 1) 46% (year 2) 76% (year 3)This scenario seems like an acceptable risk to me, when the upside seems far more profitable.

Private investors want to invest in deals they believe will be profitable.

All of the multifamily I have looked at in my area are not profitable due to prices being much higher than rent currently.

A good deal won’t matter if your contractor delays the timeline, eating into profits through holding costs.

When you put that in terms of a percentage of your net profit - that is 40% of your net profit going to the PM.

Like I see how it could work in a perfect world but i cant wrap my head around the idea that I could be making a profit if I still don't actually own the house and still have to pay down all of the loans.

Quote from @Brandon Foster: Hello Ryan,STR is do able in the north county area but there are a lot of rules and regulations.The city of Oceanside right now will not allow anything STR unless it’s west of pacific coast hwy.This is changing a lot too so you need to be aware of that in your plans.Carlsbad is super strict too but there are some condos that are still available to do STR in.Medium term rentals are as safer bet but way less profitable.

That profit will increase over time and improve your return.