When I do the 4 square method just basing it on the other 2 rental incomes we have negative cash on cash return and negative Cash on cash ROI. 

There are lots of deals to be had at each meeting.There is another one based off of the FB group Metro Detroit Real Estate Investors which meets on the 3rd Thursday of each month at Mcveighs Pub in Troy from about 6-10. 

It's not that difficult to navigate through based on my experiences with my clients, easy to use and setup.

If they get wind a tenant is playing the game & up to some funny business, tenants in our area understand that once they lose section 8, they can never get it back.

I think using the word dishonest is a little bit of a stretch.

If you can't qualify for a FNMA/FHLMC conventional investment property loan with a 30 YR fixed rate, look for a mortgage broker that will find you the best terms on a permanent DSCR based loan. 

I’m new to the game.

Income approach: Used for income producing properties and the valuation is based on the income and expenses of the property. 3.

I think they need to put more skin in the game.  

You would qualify based on the potential rent of the property.